Need help indenifing a G1 Bumblebee..

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  1. comtec25

    comtec25 Member

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    Forum,

    I have the opportunity to purchase a G1 1985 Bumblebee that is still new sealed. I've heard a ton of stories about KO versions verus original verus. Please let me know your thoughts to the following pictures that I've provided below. If there are any helpful tips for my search to finding one, this would be great! Thank you...

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  2. whoamidri

    whoamidri Mumbling Madman

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    whoamidri Mumbling Madman

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    oh and let me be the first to welcome you
     
  4. Da_Last_2_Walk

    Da_Last_2_Walk Da King Of Pre Rubs TFW2005 Supporter

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    That is a KO!
     
  5. comtec25

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    @ Da_Last_2_Walk, Please explain why it's an KO if you don't mind. @ whoamidri, what the hell are you talking about??
     
  6. Da_Last_2_Walk

    Da_Last_2_Walk Da King Of Pre Rubs TFW2005 Supporter

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    Sure, no problem, I always try to help others from getting scammed!

    The hole punch is centered, a real one has an off-centered hole punch. The bubble does not go all the way to the bottom right of the card, a real one does. The Tech Spec has the wrong color line running through it, a real one has a duller line.

    Here's my real one:
    TRANSFORMERS SERIES 2 BUMBLEBEE BUMBLE BEE YELLOW AFA 85 MOC MISB MOSC MINICAR | eBay
     
  7. comtec25

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    Thanks man! This was really helpful. Now that I'm looking at it, it really looks like a KO. Would the off-centered punch hole always be the dead give away? If so, I will always look at that first. I was originally looking at this one below because it was AFA'ed but it has all of the Japan literature stickers on it. What's the difference from yours and this one?

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  8. Da_Last_2_Walk

    Da_Last_2_Walk Da King Of Pre Rubs TFW2005 Supporter

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    First off, if the seller was trying to pass off that KO as an original, they need bitch-slapped, and if they are an ebay seller you should post their name so others won't get scammed!

    Yes, the off-center hole punch is a dead give away.

    The second BB you posted is a Chinese re-issue. These are technically real & licensed by Hasbro, however most collectors want the original U.S.A. versions. The re-issues have the Chinese stickers on the front & the copyright information on the back is shorter than the original copyright information. (Compare the copyright information under the Tech Spec with the KO vs. the Chinese re-issue)
     
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    I can't thank you enought for all of your help. Would you consider collecting the Chinese re-issue versus? If so, what's a good purchase price as well as resale price?
     
  10. Da_Last_2_Walk

    Da_Last_2_Walk Da King Of Pre Rubs TFW2005 Supporter

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    No problem, feel free to PM me anytime you have questions.

    Honestly I wouldn't consider collecting the Chinese re-issues, especially if you are considering reselling it. Most high-end or AFA collectors only want the originals. This is just my opinion, as I know other collector would want the re-issues. I would keep an eye on ebay's current & completed listings to gauge prices for the re-issues. However, you will see that they do not sell for as much as the original versions.
     
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    Sounds like a plan. I will PM you directly in the future. What's your thoughts on the re-issued Predaking? I can pick this up for $50 today:

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    50 for that reissue predaking is a good deal (as long as it's complete). At the very least, you can turn around and flip it for 3x what you paid.
     
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    Plus, I actually like the reissue a lot better than the original anyway (mostly for reasons involving gold parts vs yellow parts), so yeah... I'd jump on her. :) 
     
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    Backpack G1 forever.

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    Damn, I'd get a second Predaking at that price.
     
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    tikgnat Baweepgranaweepninnybong. TFW2005 Supporter

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    I agree with Da_Last_2_Walk. IMO, it's better to get the Japanese made ones than the China made legit Hasbro-Bradley ones. I have both MOSC Japanese made Hasbro and the Chinese made Hasbro-Bradley, and the former has better quality, even the packaging.

    Here are some pics of the MOSC Chinese and Japan made ones:

    China, packaging color is actually less vivid in person (compared to the Japanese made), there is the sticker with Chinese characters at the rightmost top portion, the bubble although aligned with the right portion of the card, is placed a bit higher, and the figure itself is a lighter shade of yellow:
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    China, the back bumper/tailpipe are not painted black:
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    The Chinese one has this sticker at the back of the card:
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    The Autobot logo/rubsign in the China-made one has a pointed chin:
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    The Japanese made one has a square chinned Autobot logo:
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    Hyperoptic G1-Junkie

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    I was wondering when you'd show up in this thread bny888. :) 

    Great info
     
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    Thanks! :) 
     

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