Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by NemesisPrime12, Apr 1, 2018.
I would rather use the time learning knitting THEN watching the movie again
Was this to say that I was just nitpicking or?
I wonder if Bay has lost his film making mojo since it seems to happen to every director eventually. It's like when they tout that Ready Player One was Steven Spielberg's biggest opening in years it's still just a drop in the bucket compared to the days when Spielberg was king of the box office.
Domestically Bay just couldn't find a way to ramp the box office back up after Revenge of the Fallen so even with the soft reboots, new robots, new humans, some bigger end of the world, the box office dropped each film. The international numbers are way trickier because it's hard to know how much of it was loyal fans back again and how much of it was being able to ride the wave of massive expansion in the number of people who could afford movie tickets for the first time and the rapid expansion of movie theaters to places that didn't have a big shiny new movie theater before.
Toss in that he doesn't really have any huge big budget films outside of Transformers lately to measure what the Bay appeal is. 13 Hours and Pain and Gain were too small and specialized to really compare them to the big budget mass appeal movies. It could be that with all the changes in what people expect out of movies now that Bay is just a relic of the past instead of being able to tap into what the current mass appeal is.
I think Bay has many positive aspects as a film maker that can be overlooked by critics and fans, but I actually think you have a point here. Bay really is one of the last, if not the last, of his type of film maker among the uppermost financial.
I can freely admit that the types of movies that I like, such as Westerns, Bay-type action flicks, and jungle/archaeological adventures, are nowhere near as popular as they used to be decades ago or even a few years ago in the case of Bay, minus a few exceptions. I happen to prefer those types of movies to most of the stuff coming out of Hollywood, but it is what it is.
My tastes just don't align with the average critic or millennial in many instances, and I'm perfectly fine with that.
The Last Jedi is excellent. Just putting that out there.
Knitting's easy, you could learn it during the casino scene and watch the rest of the movie while knitting...
On the surface pacific rim and transformers are quite similar. Giant robots, sci fi etc etc but there's a massive difference between the two.....
Transformers is burdened by its rich history among the fandom. Pacific rim does not have that baggage....yet. Fans expectations are a lot higher while pacific rim doesn't have a weight of expectancy on it. It is what it is and gives it a certain amount of freedom in how it does things. TFS has to tick a lot of boxes and sometimes the films failed to do that.
When Pacific rim has the same history as TFS then you can compare
Do not listen to what the critics say, after all the film industry is a matter of taste.
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