MTMTE 33 Discussion

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  1. CVprowl

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    ok. AND the other Brainstorm also never experienced the whole mystical dead universe energy either, right?

    so only our Brainstorm experienced the dead universe stuff and wound up with a super powered spark…

    hmm… where could this be going?

    i love to hear all your speculations...
     
  2. Kraken

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    No, both Brainstorms experienced the mystical Dead Universe energy, because that happened before the launch, when Brainstorm was examining Hardhead prior to him heading off with Wheelie, Garnak, and Jihaxus.

    So both Brainstorm's were 'undead' but only ours got used as Dead Universe portal and acquired a super spark. The other one just got dead, like, proper dead.
     
  3. WilyMech

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    That is so true.
     
  4. dj_convoy II

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    I refrained from looking at spoilers and so forth, so, while I was not particularly surprised by the resolution*, I was absolutely flabbergasted by the revelation about, uh... let's say one of the cast. Stunned.

    I was also very touched by Rewind and 'Domey.


    *not a knock; I liked it
     
  5. JoeHavok

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    Man, "Hary Kim-ing us"? Love the Voyager reference. Personally, I loved that episode.

    Oh, and I loved this issue. Very well done
     
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    Ummm...

    Brainstorm the badass. The DJD attacks the LL (because Megatron's there) and Brainstorm says "Leave them to me." He strides in, opens his briefcase, they all go offline and he shoots each of them in the head.

    Brainstorm with the really-split-personality. One personality starts tinkering with his head. The upcoming Voyager toy is then completely MTMTE-accurate (minus the briefcase).

    Maybe both <shrug>.
     
  7. optimusmegas

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    i dont know if it's been brought up before because i'm not going through all 53 pages but i was re-reading through season 1 and i was going through issue 22, the one with thunderclash. i get to the part where paddox puts his gun to thunderclash's head and rodimus, in all his glory, says:

    "he's a decepticon secret agent! all this time you've had a decepticon secret agent on board and you didn't know it! how EMBARRASSING!"

    granted paddox wasn't a decepticon i just found the exchange funny in light of current events. it makes me wonder how far in advance roberts plans his scripts because this is either an accident or epic foreshadowing.
     
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    Knowing Roberts, it's forshadowing.

    It's pretty fucking funny regardless. <3 Rodimus.
     
  9. Kraken

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    Oh that's foreshadowing alright! Brilliant!
     
  10. SPLIT LIP

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    Also, the Swerve recap at the beginning was especially funny. "What, you never believed (Rewind) was dead in the first place?"
     
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    Note: Roberts likes to write his stories in a way that gets the audience to feel the same as the cast of characters do on panel.

    IE: Everyone is all "BRAINSTORM! F'ING TRAITOR!"

    But he then likes to take that and twist it so you end up believing the wrong thing by using little, itty bitty hints throughout the last xx issues and uses a current narrative to tie them altogether in ways that are incredibly difficult to figure out.

    In short - Brainstorm probably isn't a traitor, but for his story to have the impact he wants it to, you have to believe he is, and thus it will be written as if he is until he can show you he's not.
     
  12. Anguirus

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    My take on this is that Brainstorm probably IS a double agent, but given that "the war's over" he's clearly cast his lot with the Autobots. His friendship with Chromedome is as genuine as it gets.

    Extending that a little further, it means that even on Lost Light 2, he wasn't "the" traitor who summoned the DJD. So we'll still have a reveal on that front (and hopefully it's not infinitely soul-crushing). I really think that given how smart Brainstorm is, he's figured out that his cover's blown and he's trying to protect himself right now.

    (I know this kind of thing is petty, but fuck it, they better not kill his ass before his toy comes out!)
     
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    Now that is an interesting way for them to take this. I didn't think Brainstorm was the spy but I didn't think things would be so simple. I can see Roberts taking the story in that direction. He was a spy but isn't and wasn't the one who called the DJD on the LL2.

    Also, I just plain don't want Brainstorm to get killed or even leave. He's one of my favorite members of the crew and to me, making him a Decepticon would boost his awesomeness up too high for Roberts to just get rid of him in a couple of issues.
     
  14. WilyMech

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    My feeling is Brainstorm is going be the one who smoke out the real spy. I think he is spy but a low level one since he is not really trusted beyond Chromedome. An effective spy engender trust of superiors and the people around him. My impression most people do not trust Brainstorm and a better spy would be Perceptor.
     
  15. Starscream Gaga

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    I don't really think that the leading weapons technician on Cybertron is exactly "low level". Chromedome is his only friend, but that's a bit different from being trusted. He's been shown numerous times to be among the first Autobots chosen for sensitive stuff on the Lost Light, including Overlord, getting inside Ultra Magnus, searching Luna 1 and dealing with Rodimus' corpse.

    But I think also it's also pretty clear he wasn't the traitor that gave away their position to the Lost Light. Even as a spy it's un-characteristic and it just doesn't add up with the normal Lost Light, where he did no such thing.
     
  16. Meister5

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    I feel the same way. We're missing details about what's going on so I don't think we can take that last page at face value (it made for a great cliffhanger panel though didn't it?) :) 

    This. I can believe that he's a closet Decepticon but I don't think that Mr. 'I'm too smart to die' is dumb enough to summon the DJD to his doorstep. That's like suicide with delusions of survival :p 
     
  17. T.F. Allen

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    Has it been suggested that Red Alert could be the traitor? We know his memories have been tampered with, perhaps even to the extent of shadowplay. Maybe he's some kind of sleeper agent.
     
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    Brainstorm is a leading weapons expert meaning he has top clearance for weapons development not in command or military strategy. As a spy his value is developing weapons not in stash of energon or where a battalion of Autobots are based and what t heir objectives are. I can see Decepticons getting newest latest weapons from Brainstorm but not certain information.
    It would had been more ideal to make Prowl a spy for the Decepticons because he in position of nexus of information. Or even Blaster would make a great spy. Highbrow would be ideal spy because of Administrative position where data flows through his office. Selling weapons intel does not mean you have to be a scientist that actually produces the design for that weapon.

    My feeling it would be Perceptor. Brainstorm is there and you know he is there he is not in the background. Perceptor can come and go into background at ease is gifted at subterfuge. Decepticons probably gave Brainstorm enough rope to hang himself.
     
  19. Autovolt 127

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    That is very true.

    Perhaps though since he's not on the ship now....highly unlikely

    That's what James Roberts does best...he makes us think of what's going to happen next.
     
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    But that's just it, if he's a sleeper agent that makes sense.

    On the other Lost Light, Rung died. No Rung, no one for Red to turn to for help. He was getting REALLY bad by the time he confided in Rung, what if his paranoia eventually snapped, and his sleeper persona came about? Of course that wouldn't be reflected on our LL, since ours saw Rung killed in what Red believed was a direct result of confiding in him in the first place, leading to his suicide attempt.
     

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