Why is it people need to spout stupid fan terms like "Movieverse" or "Bayverse" to describe characters or events from TWO movies in the same series? The first uses of "universe" made sense,such as the Marvel Universe. Since there's hundreds of comic book series Marvel puts out that are (mostly) all connected,when you speak of them as a whole,it makes sense to say "Universe". Ditto for DC. Star Trek,even would be fine. However,it makes no sense in the context of Transformers. "Movieverse",asides from being a cutesy made up nerd-word,refers to only two movies,one of which is a direct sequel to the other. The only other works that would fall under that umbrella are video games that mostly tell the same story as the films,and comics/novels that are either straight adaptations,or prequel fanboy bait noone connected with the films would consider canon anyway. The worst part is the overuse on this and other TF boards. I'd tell you to make a drinking game out of it,but I don't want to be responsible for your death. There's NEVER any reason to say this stuff either,except to give the impression through text that you have an unshaven neck. Any time you would want to use the word "Bayverse",its just as easy to use a real word,such as "movie" or "movies". Examples: "I hate the movieverse designs!!"-"I hate the movie designs!" "I hope the next cartoon is set in the Bayverse!"-"I hope the next cartoon is based on the movies!" So why do so many people on here insist on using these terms? Here's a hint:If you'd be embarrased to say something IRL,you should be embarrased to say it online.