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  1. Wheeljack30

    Wheeljack30 Banned

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    Since Megatron and Sentinel were supposed to rendez-vous on Earth why didn't he do it in the first place instead of waiting? Megatron basically knew about the Ark, Sentinel Prime and the Pillars that were stranded on the Moon.
     
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    Fiction-wise: Megatron never knew what happened to the Ark, considering he came to earth first, BEFORE the ark. plus he, like Optimus thought the ark was destroyed.

    Only ones to know of the Ark was Soundwave, most of the ROTF Decepticons (expect Fallen and the Protoforms), Laserbeak, Most of Soundwave minions and all of the decepticons in the moon

    Megatron didnt became aware of the ark, After the Harvester was destroyed

    Real life-wise: they havent came up with the Sentinel and Megatron story whiel making the first 2
     
  3. Sso02V

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    Megatron may have known about Sentinel on the moon, but without the Matrix, he couldn't revive him.
     
  4. Nevermore

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    Sorry, but you are incorrect. Allow me to explain:

    First, Megatron and Sentinel had planned to meet on Earth, which is why Megatron came here first. He knew that the All Spark was here, he just didn't know where. Banacheck stated that the Earth's magnetic field screwed up Megatron's navigation system, causing his protoform pod to crash in the arctic before he could retrieve the cube.

    The first seven discovered the cube, and it was hidden underneath the newly constructed Hoover Dam, while Megatron was brought there later in cryo-stasis.

    The Ark floated through space until crashing on the moon. Once Starscream and the other Decepticons arrived in the Nemesis, they discovered the Ark first, and removed the pillars.


    Megatron could have simply used the All Spark had he recovered it first. He could have retrieved Sentinel Prime and reactivated him using the cube.

    After it was destroyed, he was forced to go along with the Fallen in activating the solar harvester, which also could have been used to re power Sentinel, as well as restoring Cybertron by producing massive amounts of energon.

    When that failed, Megatron surmised that if they allowed Prime to discover the Ark, that he would use the matrix to reactivate Sentinel.

    As for the Decepticons hidden on the moon, they must have arrived with Starscream on the Nemesis.
     
  6. eagc7

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    remember i consider the comics canon, thus i was going with what was established there, in there it is shown Megatron came to earth in search for the cube, NOT for meet Sentinel, cause he thought Sentinel was dead and lost. he didnt knew where Sentinel was AFTER ROTF happened, since Soundwave and most of the nemesis troop (expect those protoforms and Fallen in ROTF) knew of the Ark

    check
    http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Movie_timeline
     
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    The problem with including the comics is cannon is that they are not so easily fixed by retconning. Namely, your claim that Megatron didn't know where Sentinel was until after ROTF. That flies in the face of what was established in DOTM; specifically the part where it's revealed the Decepticons had been manipulating the space program back in the 1960's-70's and had used Dylan's family's influence to get Apollo 18 and 19 canceled, since Apollo 11 had found the Ark back in 1969.

    The idea that Megatron, after resurection, was not informed of The Ark's location (and therefore Sentinel) until after ROTF is nonsensical since Soundwave would have known, and as a loyal servant of Megatron would have told him as soon as possible.
     
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    Soundwave never knew Megatron and Sentinel made a deal since he left cybertron way before they made a deal, this is what happened, as Soundwave and the Nemesis crew were searching the star harvester the came across with the ark which was floating in space, (also making jumps in space and time thanks to the space bridge which were accidentaly activated by sentinel during the attack that happened in cybertron) Fallen detected that there was a Space Bridge device in the ship and ordered the nemesis crew to chase the ship and they did. as they chased it, the pillars opened one last portal and the nemesis crew and the ark went int othat portal which teleported them to the future, which was 1961. as the nemesis crashed in the moon, Soundwave and the decepticons checked the ship. knowing of the life form in earth, Soundwave was determinated to not allow us to find this ship and first thing they did was taking out the space bridge pillars out of the ship. and you know the rest that happened in the 60s and 70s

    Soundwave didnt knew of the deal till after the events of ROTF. check the movie timeline page and u will see.

    but its fine if you dont consider them canon, you have your opinion and i have mine on what happened in the movie canon
     
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    My brain hurts.
     
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    Which is all, in its entirety, explained by the comics as the work of Soundwave when he arrived on Earth in the 60s after following the Ark there. The FILM ITSELF nods towards this, when Megatron credits Soundwave in dialogue with being the one to track the Ark to the moon. The DOTM comics are a *masterclass* in retconning.

    It's never specifically said when Megatron finds out, but it's not RELEVANT until after ROTF, because a) Megatron's deal with The Fallen predates his deal with Sentinel, and b) he needed the Matrix and a Transformer who could use it to reactivate Sentinel. Soundwave could have told him at some point during the events of ROTF, sure (though he had no real reason to because he didn't KNOW about Megatron's deal with Sentinel). But what was Megatron going to do about it?
     
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    ALL this
     
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    Yeah up until the Matrix was in play Megatron figured the plan with Sentinel was shot.
     
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    Megatron's overlapping master plan(s) doesn't make sense. Even if you try fill in all the blanks with assumptions and comic book canon - it doesn't deny the fact that everything was poorly thought out in advance. :lol 

    Jus' sayin.
     

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