Movie Decepticon Scale

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by deceptiboat, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. deceptiboat

    deceptiboat Active Member

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    Hello, this is my first thread :) 
    My english is not so good, so i'm sorry if anyone don't understand what i'm saying :eek: 

    So i want to make my movie decepticons collection in scale with ROTF Voyager The Fallen in Robot Mode

    the only decepticons that are out of scale to The Fallen are Barricade, Sideways, Soundwave, Crankcase (all Deluxe). The Constructicons' not included, since it would make it worse :p 

    I use a DOTM Voyager Megatron as comparison in robot mode

    Is a legend sized Barricade, Sideways, Soundwave (Cyberverse Legion), and Crankcase (Cyberverse Legion) is accurate in size to a DOTM Voyager Megatron in robot mode? (in DOTM soundwave is about the thigh of Megatron)?

    Oh and Starscream, compared to Megatron in robot mode, is it more accurate the DOTM Deluxe, or the ROTF voyager?
     
  2. bobbyjack

    bobbyjack Well-Known Member

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    I tried to do something like that when I first started collecting these guys, but quickily gave up. The scale is so different on these guys even in the same line it got really frustrating. How is Bumblebee's Camaro mode bigger than Crankcase's Suburban mode? My four year old who plays with these doesn't really care, so we just have fun with them the way they are. We have most of the Cyberverse figures too and the only one in scale with the deluxe and voyagers is HFTD Ravage. Good luck!
     
  3. Soundwinder

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    In short: No. They're not even in scale to each other... hell, they're not in scale to themselves. There's basically robot-mode scale, and vehicle-mode scale, and they're NOT the same, sadly. For most of these, a Deluxe robot mode is about what you want, but a Scout alt-mode. Which... doesn't... exist or make sense.
     
  4. Big Dawg

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    I collect movie toys and really enjoy the line, but like the OP indicated, it is hard to focus because scale is not proportionate across classes. basically my goal is to get the best representation of each screen character. It means I have alot of deluxes that hang with HAs and leaders (bonebreaker, blackout, etc- these guys should be huge).
     
  5. Anguirus

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    Actually, I think a Legends car is about right to a Voyager Fallen and Megatron. Remember when Megatron picked up Jazz in movie 1?

    Compromise is necessary, but you can get a pretty good scale set up in your movie 'cons collection. I actually decided to build it a little smaller this year, around DotM Voyager Megatron and DotM Deluxe Starscream. The plus side to this is that Long Haul and Blackout look ALMOST as big as they ought to. I don't have Legends cars in this display yet but I think they'd fit.
     
  6. MegaHavok

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    I was always annoyed we never got any more scout movie cars as they would be perfect scale for fallen, blackout, and so on
     
  7. Ravage101

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    I'm waiting on DOTM Megs to show up at Ross on discount to go with my HFTD Starscream. A fuel tanker to go with the jet...perfect pair.
     
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    It's def tough with the movie line. Especially guys like blackout, brawl, bonecrusher who never really got a big enough Representation to be in scale with a leader prime, voyager ironhide/ratchet, and the deluxe cars. I ended up splitting the display. I display the auto it's together, crankcase hangs out with barricade against dotm ironhide/sideswipe, all the voyager decepticons hangout with dotm deluxe jets. It works but it sucks not being able to display them in the context of a battle
     
  9. Noideaforaname

    Noideaforaname Pico, let's go up to Zuma

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    Alt-mode-wise, Legends cars are typically in close scale with Voyager Megatron (Crowbar is one of the few [only?] exceptions). Of course, so is Leader Starscream.
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    Soundwave's close, as close as he's going to get at least. Voyager Starscream's still fairly large, but the Deluxe is too small.
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  10. deceptiboat

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    hmmmmm based on the pict above
    Legion Soundwave is to small to be scale accurate.
    but i still going to buy it though, since it's soundwave XD

    Deluxe Starscream is to small, maybe i'm going to buy it after i complete the line,

    Alright then, it's final.
    I'm going to buy legion soundwave, to be displayed with the rest of the decepticons.

    Deluxe Barricade, Sideways, Soundwave, Legends Ravage, displayed as their own scale,

    Constructicons, too.

    And Crankcase's lonely :( 

    Case Closed //
     
  11. Ironhide4

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    sad to think though there was only four named cons in the third movie
     
  12. Timesynch

    Timesynch Go For Broke! TFW2005 Supporter

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    Eh? We had Megatron, Starscream, Shockwave, Soundwave, Barricade, Laserbeak, Crankcase, Hatchet, and Crowbar, at the very least. If you're talking about their names actually being mentioned by characters or in the script, well, they can't exactly do a Decepticon rollcall like they did with the Bots in TFTM or even in the cartoon. XD

    As for scale, Voyager Megatron is an odd duck since his alt mode is too small to go with Deluxe cars. Bot mode looks OK with Deluxe bots, but he's a bit too smallish and spindly compared to his CGI model (the cloak helps hide it a little). Even odder is that the Deluxe Optimus mold appears to scale well with Megatron in alt mode, but I'm not sure about bot mode? Looking at the Voyager bot modes for both of them in their packaging, they looked similar in size. Wondering if anyone with all three figures could confirm the sizes there.
     
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    deluxe optimus is in scale with megs in vehicle mode, but voyager prime works better for robot mode scale.
     
  14. OptimusPrimeFour

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    I still cant understand how in the movie starscream and prime's scale are at the same height for robot mode. But the actual real life mathematical/scientific calculations of their vehicle modes make starscream pretty much double the size of optimus/
     
  15. Thyservant

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    MY PERSONAL FINAL MOVIE-VERSE SCALE:

    G=Legends; N=Legion; S=Scout; C=Commander; P=Play set; D=Deluxe; V=Voyager; A=Human Alliance; L=Leader;
    TF=Transformers; RF=Revenge of the Fallen; DM=Dark of the Moon; HD= Hunt for the Decepticons; MT=Movie Trilogy;
    RM=Robot Mode; AM=Alternate Mode.

    3/1 Insecticon (S, HD10) [RM][AM]
    1/3 Wheelie (D, RF09) [RM]; Scalpel (S, RF09) [RM]; Ejector (S, RF09) [RM]
    1/5 Wheelie (D, RF09) [AM]
    1/6 Wheelie (G, RF09) [RM]; Scalpel (S, RF09) [AM]; Ejector (S, RF09) [AM]
    1/11 Wheelie (G, RF09) [AM]
    1/20 The Matrix (V, HD10)
    1/24 Bumblebee (A, RF09) [RM]
    1/27 Bumblebee (A, RF09) [AM]; Roller (N, DM11) [RM, AM]; Soundwave (A, DM12) [AM]
    1/28 Ironhide (L, DM11) [RM]
    1/29 Ironhide (L, DM11) [AM]; Sam Witwicky (A, RF09)
    1/30 Dylan Gould (A, DM12); Soundwave (A, DM12) [RM]; Laserbeak (A, DM12); Ravage (G, HD10); The Twins (D, RF09) [RM] [AM]
    1/32 Optimus Prime (L, DM11) [AM]; Sideswipe (D, RF09) [AM]
    1/33 Bumblebee (D, HD10) [RM]; Wheeljack (D, DM12) [RM]
    1/34 Optimus Prime (L, DM11) [RM]
    1/35 Sideswipe (D, RF09) [RM]; Bumblebee (D, HD10) [AM]
    1/37 Barricade (D, DM11) [AM]
    1/38 Jetpower Optimus Prime (L, Jetfire's feet raised up); Wheeljack (D, DM12) [AM]
    1/40 Jetpower Optimus Prime (L, FWI-3); Starscream (L, HD10) [RM]
    1/41 Barricade (D, DM11) [RM]; Sentinel Prime (L, DM11) [RM]
    1/43 Jetpower Optimus Prime (L, Official transformation)
    1/44 Jetpower Optimus Prime (L, Jetfire's feet)
    1/45 Ratchet (D, DM11) [RM]
    1/46 Ratchet (D, DM11) [AM]
    1/47 Sentinel Prime (L, DM11) [AM]; Jetpower Optimus Prime (L, DM11)
    1/48 Optimus Prime (V, HD10) [AM]
    1/49 Optimus Prime (V, HD 10) [RM]
    1/54 Starscream (V, RF09) [RM]
    1/57 Shockwave (V, DM11)
    1/58 Optmus Prime (D, MT12) [AM]; Sideswipe (N, DM11) [AM]; Sideways (G, RF09) [AM]
    1/59 Optimus Prime (D, MT12) [RM]
    1/61 Leadfoot (N, DM11) [RM]; Soundwave (N, DM11) [AM]
    1/62 Starscream (L, HD10) [AM]
    1/65 Soundwave (N, DM11) [RM]; Sideswipe (N, DM11) [RM]
    1/66 Jetfire (L, DM11) [RM]; Bumblebee (N, DM11) [AM]
    1/67 Trailer (D, MT12)
    1/69 The Wreckers (N, DM11) [AM]
    1/70 Sideways (G, RF09) [RM]; Roadbuster (N, DM11) [RM]
    1/72 Jetfire (L, DM11) [AM]
    1/73 Crowbar (N, DM11) [AM]
    1/75 Bumblebee (N, DM11) [RM]
    1/76 Crankcase (N, DM11) [RM]
    1/79 Ironhide (C, DM11) [RM]
    1/80 Topspin (N, DM11) [RM]
    1/81 Crankcase (N, DM11) [AM]; Ratchet (N, DM11) [RM][AM]
    1/82 Ironhide (C, DM11) [AM]
    1/84 Megatron III (C, DM11) [AM]
    1/87 Crowbar (N, DM11) [RM]
    1/90 Optimus Prime (C, DM11) [RM]; Starscream (V, RF09) [AM]
    1/95 Optimus Prime (C, DM11) [AM]
    1/96 Soundwave (G, DM11)
    1/101 Sentinel Prime (C, DM11) [RM]
    1/102 Demolishor (V, RF09) [RM]; Mixmaster (G, RF09) [AM]
    1/106 Megatron III (C, DM11) [RM]
    1/109 Brawl (G, TF08) [RM]
    1/110 Brawl (G,TF08) [AM]
    1/114 Optimus Prime (G, RF09) [RM]
    1/117 Bonecrusher (G, HD10) [RM]
    1/118 Blackout (C, DM11) [RM]; Bonecrusher (G, HD10) [AM]
    1/122 Mixmaster (G, RF09) [RM]; Scorponok (C, DM11)
    1/124 Sentinel Prime (C, DM11) [AM]
    1/127 Optimus Prime (G, RF09) [AM]
    1/128 Demolishor (V, RF09) [AM]
    1/135 Starscream (N, DM11) [RM]
    1/142 Megatron I (G, TF08); Rampage (G, RF09) [RM]; Rampage (G, HD10) [RM]
    1/143 The Fallen (G, RF09) [RM]
    1/150 Megatron II (G, RF09)
    1/162 Long Haul (G, RF09) [AM]
    1/163 Jetpower Optimus Prime (G, RF09)
    1/171 Scrapper (G, RF09) [RM]
    1/183 Overload (G, RF09) [RM]
    1/184 Rampage (G, RF09) [AM]; Rampage (G, HD10) [AM]
    1/205 Scrapper (G, RF09) [AM]
    1/213 Starscream (N, DM11) [AM]
    1/222 Blackout (C, DM11) [AM]
    1/232 Overload (G, RF09) [AM]
    1/234 Devastator (G, RF09); Jetfire (G, RF09) [RM]
    1/239 Hightower (G, RF09) [RM]
    1/256 Long Haul (G, HD10) [AM]
    1/257 Hightower (G, RF09) [AM]
    1/266 Scavenger (G, RF09) [AM]
    1/283 Long Haul (G, HD10) [RM]
    1/305 The Ark (P, DM11) [AM]
    1/330 Long Haul (G, RF09) [RM]
    1/352 Scavenger (G, RF09) [RM]
    1/368 Jetfire (G, RF09) [AM]

    Robot Heights for reference:
    100' Devastator
    90' The Ark
    75' Demolishor, Scavenger
    65' Long Haul
    55' Hightower
    50' Jetfire
    45' Scrapper
    40' The Fallen, Power-up Optimus Prime
    37' Megatron II
    35' Megatron I, Rampage
    33' Blackout, Grindor, Megatron III, Sentinel Prime
    31' Starscream
    30' Overload, Shockwave
    28' Optimus Prime
    25' Bonecrusher, Brawl
    22' Ironhide, Mixmaster, Soundwave I
    20' Crankcase, Crowbar, Ratchet
    17' Jolt, Topspin
    16' Barricade, Bumblebee, Roadbuster, Sideways, Soundwave II
    15' Hatchet, Sideswipe, Wheeljack
    14' Leadfoot, Mirage
    13'6'' Trailer
    13' Jazz
    8' Mudflap, Skids
    7' Arcee, (Chromia), (Elita One), (Roller)
    6' Igor
    5'9.5'' Dylan Gould
    5'9'' Carly Spencer, Sam Witwicky
    5'6'' Alice
    5'4'' Mikaela Banes
    4' Frenzy, Laserbeak, Ravage, Reedman, Scorponok
    1'6'' Wheelie
    1' Brains, Ejector, Scalpel
    8'' The Matrix (20'' in length)
    1'' Insecticon
     

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