Movie characters with multiple alt modes...

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  1. SaberPrime

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    I'm surprised this hasn't had a topic yet but there have been a few movie characters who have had many different modes besides just vehicle to robot...

    Frenzy started out as a boom-box but later scanned a cell phone after being decapitated. Some of his toys are I guess Barricades engine but are more like just folded up Frenzies. In concept only, this never made it to the movie or the toys, he was the radio in Barricade's vehicle mode.

    I don't think there was anyone for RotF except the twins who appear as an Ice Cream Truck and then scan separate vehicle modes right after that first scene of them.

    And in DotM of course we have Laserbeak who is mostly seen in his bird mode. Threw out the movie we seen him transform into many different things including a Pink Bumblebee and a desk top computer. Of course the toy also has a weird twin spin helicopter type thing mode but that doesn't actually appear in the movie. I'm sure I'm forgetting some things because Laserbeak had a different transformation in every scene he was in. According to the wiki there's also a commercial with him as an office copy machine. I've seen an older YouTube video like what was described only with an unnamed robot rather than a bird. It's also pointed out he was an LCD TV screen and a wall mounted CD player. I'd also like to note that of all the multi-mode Transformers Laserbeak is the only one we never actually see scan anything to be able to transform differently. It's possible he scanned different things off camera but when did he scan Bumblebee's robot mode and why is it pink?
     
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    That was an old Double A Paper commercial playing off the success of the first film, and which was eventually incorporated into this one, likely at GREAT cost to AA Paper for the product placement, lol.

    But, yeah, they later updated that first commercial with a new, longer version of the scene as it appeared in the movie instead.

    Here's both:


    :) 

    Oh, as for the rest of the post, I think Laserbeak being a spy who's been on Earth for quite a while suggests that either he's had years and years to acquire/scan multiple alt. modes or else he can just "wing it" (pun intended) like he may have done with photos of Bumblebee for that alt. mode...unless they're supposed to have met before, of course.
     
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    What about Mixmaster and Soundwave (ROTF)!

    Mixmaster was a Truck, robot, and turret.
    SOundwave was a jet, satellite, and robot. (Plus Mercedes.)
     
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    Well, I suppose everyone HAD multiple alt-modes.

    Like Optimus, for example. Cybertronian mode, Reentry mode, Earth alt-mode, and Earth alt mode robot.
     
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    The first one is the old commercial with the robot I was talking about that I seen before. The second one is the one I haven't seen that the wiki was talking about. Thanks for the links. :) 

    Well I think when you scan a new alt mode it's suppose to replace the old one unless you scan multiple things at the same time. That's how it seems to work in the cartoons but they never really explain it in the movies. They do show with Bumblebee and the twins though, especially the twins because their colors change when they scan their new modes, they lose the old transformation.

    Maybe Laserbeak has a special scanning system we don't know about that lets him keep every mode he scans instead of replacing it with each new scan like the others do.

    Of course that still doesn't explain why his Bumblebee mode is Pink when their color normally would change to fit what they scan. Unless that's not actually Bumblebee but some other Autobot who looks like him that Laserbeak probably killed some years ago.

    We could really have fun thinking about all the different ways Laserbeak could have ended up with that alt mode. lol

    When is Hasbro going to give us the pink Bumblebee repaint anyway?

    I forgot about Mixmaster but Rampage also had that jackhammer mode and legs mode. Not sure if that was actually in the movie though, can't remember. I know the toy does it but Beast Machines toys also have legs when they don't in the show.

    Soundwave though I don't think ever actually transformed in RotF and he defiantly scanned a new alt mode off camera at some point to get from satellite in space Soundwave to Carly kidnapping car Soundwave. Also he changes color sense his car mode isn't blue. He's practically in Shattered Glass colors.

    Huh? Cybertronian Mode and Reentry Mode are the same thing and you said Earth Alt mode twice. He only had 2 transformations.

    Megatron however has a new form in every movie. Don't know how I forgot to list him when I have all 3 sitting on my shelf. His second design isn't really so much that he scanned a new mode so much that he was rebuilt that way.
     
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    You missunderstand. Optimus has his Cybertronian robot mode, his Cybertronian alt-mode, his Earth alt-mode, and his robot mode with Earth alt-mode parts.
     
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    Yeah, the multi-scanning thing is pretty vague, but what I was trying to say (but didn't quite) was that if it IS a special capability rather unique to Laserbeak then it may have something to do with his function as a spy, affording him EXTRA sneakiness and all that.

    Regarding the pink Bumblebee alt. mode, however, I'm pretty sure the idea is that Bee may have been somewhat recognizable to the public (from all the photos and O'reilly discussions and such) and Laserbeak just went pink to make himself seem ALL the more friendly and cute to the little girl we trying to trick.
     
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    Yeah but a robot mode is not an alt mode. Alt is everything else they become other than a robot so Optimus only has 2 different transformations not 4.

    Well that would also have to be a unique ability to Laserbeak because no other Transformer can change their color at will. They're stuck with the color of whatever it is that they scan. Hence the twins fighting over who gets to scan the green one.
     
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    *cough* FRENZY *cough*
     
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    Frenzy was the first one I mentioned. I even pointed out his alt mode as Barricade's radio from an early draft of the script even though it never made it into the movie.
     
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    It would make sense for the infiltration-specialist cons to have the most variety of alt modes, I suppose.

    In the novels, it was mentioned that the Transformers (Bumblebee, in particular) can maintain an internal database of alt modes, and switch between them, which would imply they can add whatever they scan to that database. So for all we know, ALL the Transformers could have multiple alt modes in the bayverse, we just rarely see them.

    Also, Megatron technically is shown with two forms in ROTF, his pre-ressurrection form (jet) and his post-ressurrection form (tankthing).
     
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    ^ Thank you, yes. These limitations people speak of, while perhaps vaguely suggested, are never explicitly outlined in the film...so basically it's a non-issue.
     
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    For some reason this actually reminded me that in Animated Ultra Magnus and crew were seen back in their original Cybertronian modes after they left Earth in Season 2. This can be especially seen with Sentinel Prime as he chases Wasp in his Cybertronian vehicle mode after we've already seen him as an Earth Snow Plow.

    Yet Blitzwing had to simultaneously scan both the tank and jet to be a triple changer.

    A possible explanation for this is that the Decepticons were shown with internal scanners while the Autobots used their ships computer system to scan their new modes. It's possible the Autobots can scan on their own but like the Decepticons wouldn't be able to keep other scans in a personal database but rather would have to keep them on the ships computers for rescanning later on when they no longer needed their Earth modes. Again that's a possible explanation for Animated but doesn't really work for the movies.

    Technically his pre-ressurrection form is what's left of his original body from the first movie. There's only 3 Megatrons not 4. Though in the toy line there is 4 because for some reason they couldn't make one toy that is movie accurate in both modes. Leader RotF Megatron is more accurate to the CGI model in robot mode while the Voyager version has a more accurate vehicle mode.
     
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    Yes, that's what I meant. But I figured since your discussion was about showing more than one alt mode per movie, it was relevant.
     
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    Who said it was? Every TF has had 4 modes.
     
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    Fun fact: Laserbeak's pink Bumblebee was missing door wings. What could that mean? No idea...
     
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    Mass Shifting.


    Actually more likely it was for a simplification of the cgi model.
     
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    Plus, Laserbeak didn't have to transform into a car, complete with kibble-doors...he just had to resemble a more girl-friendly version of the cutest Autobot enough to trick a kid who's barely old enough to read.

    Kinda funny that of ALL the things for Laserbeak to be missing it's Bee's wings, though.

    ;) 
     
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    You said it and no they haven't.

    I'm talking about alt mode not all modes so their robot modes don't count. You listed robots as alternate modes.

    Only Megatron and Bumblebee have 4 alt modes. Technically Megatron only if you count both RotF toys as different alt modes. Bumblebee I'm counting as 4 because even though they're all Cameros they're 4 different styles. There's 2 different Cameros in the first movie. RotF if you look at the front of the car the grill and head lights have changed from the previous movie. In Dark of the Moon he has an additional spoiler in the back of his vehicle mode that was never there before. That's kinda pushing it though.

    Most of the Transformers only ever have 1 alt mode.
     
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    in the concept art, lazerbeak was a murder-penguin instead of pinkybee... that would be creepy-awesome to see that in da movie ^^
     

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