Movie 2007 Toys - Piecing Together The Waves

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  1. ChrisW

    ChrisW Well-Known Member

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    I've been trying to figure out what deluxe, voyager, and leader figures fit into each upcoming wave. Here's what I've managed to piece together thanks to the BotCon galleries at TFW2005.com, Seibertron.com, and AllSpark.com:

    Wave 0 - May 2007
    • Deluxe Protoform Optimus Prime
    • Deluxe Protoform Starscream

    Wave 1 - June 2007
    • Deluxe Barricade
    • Deluxe Brawl
    • Deluxe Bumblebee (70s)
    • Deluxe Jazz
    • Deluxe Scorponok
    • Deluxe Wreckage
    • Voyager Blackout
    • Voyager Ratchet
    • Voyager Robovision Optimus Prime
    • Leader Optimus Prime

    Wave 2 - July 2007
    • Deluxe Bonecrusher
    • Deluxe Swindle
    • Voyager Ironhide
    • Voyager Starscream
    • Leader Megatron

    Wave 3 - August 2007
    • Deluxe Arcee
    • Deluxe Bumblebee (08)
    • Deluxe Dreadwing
    • Voyager Megatron
    • Voyager Optimus Prime

    Wave 4 - September 2007
    • Deluxe G1 Jazz (Target Exclusive)
    • Deluxe Longarm
    • Deluxe Payload
    • Voyager G1 Starscream (Target Exclusive)
    • Leader Brawl

    Wave 5 - October 2007
    • Deluxe Dropkick
    • Deluxe Recon Barricade
    • Voyager Rescue Ratchet
    • Voyager Thundercracker

    Unknown
    • Deluxe Dreadwing Redeco?
    • Deluxe Final Battle Jazz
    • Voyager Evac
    • Voyager Incinerator
    • Leader Desert Attack Brawl
    • Leader Night Watch Optimus Prime

    I suspect Final Battle Jazz will be in Wave 5. Waves 3 and 4 each have 3 Deluxes while Wave 5 has only 2.

    The Hasbro Tour pics show a Dreadwing figure with blue legs and tan tail wings. This could just be a Dreadwing prototype, or it could be a new redeco with a Dirge-like color scheme. The pics also show a Blackout redeco supposedly named Evac, a Voyager-class Osprey figure named Incinerator, and a version of Leader Brawl with a tan color scheme.

    I couldn't find confirmation of Voyager Prime in Wave 3, though it makes sense from the info we've seen so far. The figure is on display at BotCon, but nobody got a clear picture that shows his release date.

    Waves 3 and 5 are missing a Leader figure, and we have 2 Leader figures with an unknown release date. Coincidence? Perhaps. It is likely that one of them will be in Wave 5, but I don't know if either of these is ready for Wave 3.

    Also note that the dates seem to be approximate. We got Wave 2 early, and it looks like Wave 3 Deluxes are starting to show up in US stores now.
     
  2. Soundblaster1

    Soundblaster1 The Heisenberg of Toys

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    Final Battle Jazz IS the G1 Redeco, and 'Bee is '74 not '76.

    Voyager prime and Megs are both wave 3.
     
  3. drsyn

    drsyn Classics Big member

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    nay, they are seperate figures.


    The G1 redeco, is a target exclusive along with the Robo-Vision version of Voyager Prime, G1 deco Starscream with the retooled head. And all those basic repaints.
     
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    Soundblaster1 The Heisenberg of Toys

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    Final Battle was the placeholder name for it.
     
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    NO

    They ARE different figures. The paint scheme on both is different.

    Final Battle Jazz has a different weapon.

    They are not the same.

    September for Leader Brawl is it?

    Pity that, I was hoping to pick him up next month or so...ah well.
     
  6. Dark Magnus

    Dark Magnus Your opinion is wrong!

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    Good list Chris. But AFAIK Rescue Ratchet is a regular release voyager and not a Target exclusive.
     
  7. ChrisW

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    Here's what I know about the Jazz redeco situation:

    The back of the packaging for various figures (including Longarm and Dropkick) list "Final Battle jazz" as an available figure. These packaging pictures are, as far as I know, the only pictures of Final Battle Jazz. There have been no photos of the actual figure to date.

    There is a G1-decoed Jazz figure on display at BotCon. This figure is labeled "Target Exclusive G1 Movie Deluxe Autobot Jazz".

    As far as I can tell, there is nothing tying the G1 redeco to the name "Final Battle Jazz". On the other hand, there is nothing separating them either. The pictures of FBJ really aren't clear enough to tell whether it is the G1 redeco. It doesn't really look like the redeco: FBJ looks grey, not white, and the G1 redeco's blue stripe is missing from the front of FBJ's chest. I can't be certain, though, until we get more information.

    Picture of FBJ:

    http://www.tfw2005.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/18601/cat/1811

    Picture of G1 redeco Jazz:

    http://www.allspark.com/index.php?set_albumName=album111&id=Picture_251&option=com_gallery&Itemid=4&include=view_photo.php
     
  8. ChrisW

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    I just re-checked the BotCon galleries and you are correct: the Rescue Ratchet info card does not list it as a Target Exclusive. I'll update my list.
     
  9. Dark Magnus

    Dark Magnus Your opinion is wrong!

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    Also backing you up is the unique DPCI in Target's computer for G1 Jazz. If he were a regular deluxe, he wouldn't have a unique DPCI in the system.
     
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    I've heard from my local TRU and another person on the tfans boards that works at TRU, that 08 bumblebees wave was expected to be in stores this monday. I'm not sure how correct they are with that statement, but in your line-up wave 3, swindle and bonecrusher have been released already so maybe we will see them put there instead
     
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    I suspect we will be getting Waves 3, 4, and 5 well before the listed dates. Or at least the US will. The Toys R Us stores in the Vancouver, BC, Canada area still don't have the Wave 2 Deluxes. Fortunately, Zellers does. :D 
     
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    Knowing that Hasbro probably won't release 3 versions of a mold/character in the same line, I still believe FBJ was either a miscommunication OR is the Target G1 Jazz.
     
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    That's just flat-out wrong, since we know Hasbro is putting out 3 versions of the Starscream mold in this very line (and if we want to get into characters, there'll be 4 Primes by the end). In fact, the treatment of Starscream parallels Jazz exactly: Each mold gets a movie deco release, a slight remold and a retailer-exclusive G1-style repaint.

    "Movie" Starscream and "Movie" Jazz
    Thundercracker (head remold, new paint job) and Final Battle Jazz (new gun, altered paint job)
    G1 Starscream (Target exclusive) and G1 Jazz (Target exclusive)
     
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    Thundercracker isn't SS, is it?
     
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    But its using the same mold and modifying certain bits of it. Same concept.
     
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    You said they wouldn't use the same mold/character. Here's the quote again:

    Thundercracker is basically the same mold as Starscream, with minor changes, just like FBJ is basically the same mold as Jazz, with minor changes. And you also ignored my point that they are releasing more than three versions of at least one character in this line: Optimus Prime. Thus, it's not out of the question they'd release 3 versions of another character, especially when one of the versions of Jazz is slated to be a Target exclusive and not widely available.
     
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    We got a perfectly clear picture of FB Jazz on the back of Dropkicks packaging, he has battle scarring/damage and has a new weapon. Possibly a gun.

    Also, voyager Megatron is out already.
     
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    Sorry for bumping up such an old thread, but given the discussion here I thought it was worth it.

    While we still don't have a release date, we now have solid proof that Final Battle Jazz is not the same as the G1 redecoed Jazz. Pictures of G1 Jazz can be found in the various BotCon galleries. Good pictures of Final Battle Jazz can be found here:

    http://tformers.com/transformers-database/item.php?itemid=248
     
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    ActionMasterZod LarzArz on twitter, man.

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    I want this stuff NOW.

    I can't wait that long, were is a time machine when you need one?
     

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