most overrated and underrated in transformers?

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  1. gregles

    gregles quintesson

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    its very simple what do you think is the most overrated and underrated things about transformers as a franchise

    for me the most overrated things are:
    war for cybertron as I got it having read pretty good reviews and felt the game turned cybertron into a big boring corridor and the game is really out classed by the ps2 game based on armada
    prime/movie bumblebee as he really needs a personality upgrade
    stormbringer with all that talent behind it, it could have been great

    as for underrated I would go with:
    sky lynx as he is like an ego crazy bird/space ship thing who reads loads of dickens, Oscar wilde and Shakespeare
    the quintessons as they are very silly, intellectual, sinister, cruel, malicious, manipulative and funny what's not to love about them and I personally never understand why they attract hate
     
  2. UltraMagnus3786

    UltraMagnus3786 That's what it is

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    For overrated, I'd go with Grimlock, although my knowledge is based on the G1 cartoon, TF Animated, and IDW rather than the original comics. Also, killing optimus and then bringing him back to life. Please stop with that right now.

    For underrated, I'd go with G1 Season 3 or Ravage in Beast Wars who was just freakin' awesome. I also think Defensor is underrated-- he's probably my favorite combiner!
     
  3. Incepticon

    Incepticon Well-Known Member

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    Most Overrated

    Beast Wars. The way some people talk about it (years later in hindsight), they make it sound like the single most "brilliantly" written show ever to happen to TV, and nothing that Transformers has ever done before or after could ever possibly match the mind blowing awesomeness of it... and that if you didn't/don't like it, it's because it was beyond you, "ahead of its time" and just too smart. Whereas I remember it being an awful cheap looking CGI cartoon with the single most ridiculous concept I've ever seen in TF lore with some of the worst voice acting I've ever heard accompanied by a toy line that truly captured the term "epic fail" from top to bottom.

    Marvel G1 Comics. Same thing - many people now use this as some sort of elitist measuring stick almost 30 years later. It's cool to rag on the G1 cartoon, but never say a bad word about the G1 comics because, of course, they were the "highbrow" fiction for a more advanced audience blah blah blah. I collected every single one the comics and moderately enjoyed them, but I can't deny that it had some of the most awful artwork ever put in a comic, and many story lines that absolutely rivaled the cartoon for their ridiculous absurdity.

    Every single thing that iGear does.

    Takara's use of chrome and hellbent dedication of painting new modernized representations of G1 characters in their old and usually drab G1 color/deco schemes. I think it looks cheap and almost KO 95% of the time.

    Bludgeon.

    The Stunticons.

    The Wreckers.

    Grimlock.

    Unicron anything & everything.

    Primus.

    Most Underrated

    G1 Robot Heroes. I'd collect those things forever, and absolutely love the aesthetic of them.

    Alternators. Whether they were good sellers or not, I thought that line was brilliant and still had a lot of potential left in it... assuming they ever decided to license some new vehicle models that is.

    The importance to collectors of the best relative (note: not necessarily "accurate") scale representations of figures across the various size classes that Hasbro themselves created. I don't believe anyone who says some sort of toy scale means nothing to them, and would love to see what they have to say when Hasbro start releasing Prime & Megatron as Scouts, Bumblebee & Beachcomber as Voyagers or the Seekers as Legends. A million to one says they'd suddenly have many vocal opinions about this supposed "irrelevant" issue.

    The whole premise of taking established names of established characters that fans grew up with and reusing or slapping them onto completely new & different characters via different toy lines or canons. Virtually no other 'nerd' franchise does it or could even get away with it - Transformers shouldn't be any exception.

    Brawn.

    Skywarp & Thundercracker as characters. They're more than just obligatory Starscream repaints imo.

    Trailbreaker.

    Reflector.

    * Obviously a LOT of people are going to disagree with me on those points, but it's just my personal opinion response to the question posed. Won't debate it with anyone since obviously we're all allowed to like or dislike whatever we want with this franchise's multiple continuities. :) 
     
  4. TFfanatic88

    TFfanatic88 All hail Duke.

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    Overrated:
    Bayformers

    Underrated:
    Transformers: Armada
     
  5. TFW10

    TFW10 Well-Known Member

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    Opinions vary, but for me its:

    Overrated: Shockwave

    Underrated: Soundwave
     
  6. Nachtsider

    Nachtsider Banned

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    Overrated: Transformers Prime

    Underrated: Beast Machines
     
  7. cappeca

    cappeca wtf is this?

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    Overrated:
    Simon Furman
    Bayformers
    Grimlock
    Don Figueroa
    TFWiki
    Victory

    Underrated:
    Armada
    Masterforce
     
  8. kaijuguy19

    kaijuguy19 Keyblade Wielder

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    Overrated:

    The Sunbow G1 Cartoon.

    Unnesscceray G1 fanwinks.



    Underrated:

    Armada show

    Humans in general.

    Fembots

    Beast modes.

    Raf
     
  9. mrgalvaprime

    mrgalvaprime #BanTJ

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    This if you include Beast Machines and the Beast in the underrated
     
  10. Megatronwp38

    Megatronwp38 Nobody defeats the DEVASTATOR!

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    I agree with You on all your thoughts. If I were to add,

    Overrated: TF Prime, I wouldn't stop with just igear, but all 3rd party stuff is overrated overpriced stuff.

    Underrated: Beast Machines
     
  11. Megatronwp38

    Megatronwp38 Nobody defeats the DEVASTATOR!

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    I don't see how anyone could say anymore that the G1 Cartoon is overrated. It's the most bashed and ostracized
    part of the franchise next to the baymovies.
     
  12. Wheeljack_Prime

    Wheeljack_Prime Don't eat me

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    Overrated:
    Simon Furman
    3rd Party stuff

    Underrated:
    Beast Machines cartoon (apart from The Weak Component and Nightscream)
     
  13. kaijuguy19

    kaijuguy19 Keyblade Wielder

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    Really? I didn't know that. I know that the cartoon was flawled but I didn't know it was bashed THAT much!
     
  14. EmbraceThePurpl

    EmbraceThePurpl Purple Dinosaur

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    Overrated: Animated, unicron, starcream...every starscream, third party stuffs, fan fiction, dinobots, furman, derik j wyatt

    Underrated: BRAWN, hot shot, tf armada, beast machines, beast modes in general, g1 cartoon, cybertron,windcharger....most non well known g1 bots
     
  15. Omnius

    Omnius Well-Known Member

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    Overrated:
    3rd party toys
    Henkei

    Underrated:
    Robot Heroes
    Legends-class
     
  16. Easterling Capt

    Easterling Capt I am Vern Schillinger

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    Soundwave is not underated. He is in Tf Prime and kicks ass, he is in the movie, hes been reissued plenty of times. HE is in the Hall of Fame...

    He is NOT underated.

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    Overated:

    All crap that not is G1.

    Underated:

    G1...It owns everything and you ppl just need to come to terms with it.
     
  17. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Overrated:

    The Michael Bay Movie Trilogy
    Sunbow G1
    Third Party Products


    Underrated:
    Transformers Cybertron
    Movie Bonecrusher
     
  18. Stardust262

    Stardust262 Moe is the Only Way

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    Overated:
    Bumblebee
    Ironhide
    Jazz
    Prowl
    Grimlock
    Shockwave
    Animated
    Movies
    Sunbow G1

    Underrated:
    Demolishor
    Tidal Wave
    Red Alert
    Galvatron
    Beast Machines
    Armada
    Cybertron
    Alternators
     
  19. kaijuguy19

    kaijuguy19 Keyblade Wielder

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    You're joking right?
     
  20. flamepanther

    flamepanther Interested, but not really

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    Underrated: Unicron Trilogy - No, it's not the best ever, but the shows gad some brilliant moments, and there were a lot of very kickass toys.

    Overrared: Simon Furman - No question he can write a good story, However, he can also rely much too heavily on mystical elements in attempting to make the story "bigger." Primus-did-it is not any more satisfying or reasonable than its real-world equivalents. Also, he botched the ending of Beast Wars. Megatron is suddenly a cultist, and based everything on a mystical (see above) book that we NEVER heard about until now? Sorry, no.
     

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