More than 40???

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  1. Ace Convoy

    Ace Convoy Well-Known Member

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    also from transformerslive.blogspot.com
    Transformers Live Action Movie Blog: 60 Robots in Transformers 2?

    For a while now the number of Transformers in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen numbered around 40 but a new article from Variety is pegging that number around 60. The article, part of the nod to Michael Bay for his Vanguard Award, discusses the demands Bay has for the visual effects work being done by ILM and Digital Domain for movie.

    "Michael took the production value up many, many notches," [ILM's lead VFX supervisor for TF2 Scott Farrar] says. "Just the backgrounds alone are huge. It's a combination of 'Apocalypse Now' and 'Ben-Hur,' in regards to fantastic backgrounds and the unbelievable sets we worked at around the world."

    Everyone involved in "Revenge of the Fallen" is keeping the details under wraps, but Farrar says there are some 60 robot characters, and they play in settings around the world. Some, like refineries at night, were chosen to boost the visual drama and show off the scale of the giant 'bots.

    What's more, this time the Transformers will interact much more with the world around them. Farrar highlights "the splashes and the hits and the fighting on dirt or moving, banging into trees," explaining, "Things splinter and break, they spit, they outgas, they sweat, they snort."

    One new challenge is that several sequences will be shown in Imax format, approximately 16 times larger than 35mm, which means the CG work must be finished at much higher resolution. At that scale, it can take several days to render a final frame.

    All this is on top of creating a new family of giant robots. "(Bay) had to learn a whole litany of new things by getting into this robot culture on the first film," Farrar says. "I don't think he'd ever worked on a film where he'd done so much directing of animated characters. So he's really taken it to heart, and I think not everybody does, but he actually enjoys the process."

    A few things of note. One is "60 robot characters". Now there is a difference between an appearance and an actual character. For the purposes of VFX, whether a Transformer is in the background, foreground, on screen for two seconds or 20 minutes, a rather detailed design effort has to go into creating that 3-D object so it can be inserted into the film properly. As a result, if there is a scene on Cybertron, one moment could have "60 robot characters" in it. I think that there may be up to 40 named characters and the rest are probably background for whatever a particular scene needs.

    The second thing of note is something that Transformers 2 will probably not get credit for being the first film to have VFX used extensively for IMAX scenes. The Dark Knight was one of the first major summer movies to have scenes specifically created for the IMAX and proved that studios could make money off of IMAX, but they "cheated" it a touch by filming rather standard scenes in the format. Michael Bay's use in Transformers 2 much more ambitious, complicated and expensive with CGI Transformers effects that have to scaled accordingly. Personally I was unimpressed by The Dark Knight IMAX Experience compared with the regular theatrical movie and hope that Transformers 2 IMAX Experience creates a much more dramatic distinction between the two format
     
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    Laser_Optimus Your opinion was noted. Now get lost. TFW2005 Supporter

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    Interesting. With all these robots I hope the story doesn't suffer for it. Of course, as stated, there's a difference between just having a character standing there and having an actual character. So, it'll be interesting to see how many of the characters actually have roles in the film and how many of them are just background characters or have bit parts.

    You know... I'm beginning to get the feeling that is where Springer is going to fit in. We know he's getting a couple of toys, but we really haven't heard much about him when it comes down to the actual movie. He may only be a bit player or a background character. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...
     
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    oh yeah i thought this was old news. Some of the characters wont even be known
     
  4. Th3 Fall3n

    Th3 Fall3n Unicrons First Apprentice

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    i jus want to see that big ass plane carying optimus turnout to be silverbolt :thumbs2: :bay 
     
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    Now is not just More than meet the eye. Now it just More than 40-eyes =O
     
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    Ethereal A Sad Flareon

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    If it's 40 characters and 20 cannon fodder, then great.
     
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    welp, there was 17 in the first film if you count all the little guys made by the allspark (18 if you count the guy that gets stabbed by the spear on cybertron)

    and this second one is suppose to have all sorts of crazy little transformers, insecticons, kitchen bots, etc..
     

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