more alien than machine.

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  1. jonatron26

    jonatron26 Well-Known Member

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    did any one else notice that rotf highlighted the more alien functions of tf?
    the hatchlings, the spittting, ravages goopy spine, aging?
     
  2. closetrat

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    No... but the biggest reason why I don't like the Fallen & Soundwave is b/c they don't have an identifiable earth form...

    The fallen is just an alien - never transforming once into anything else & SW's a alien satellite...
     
  3. Karhukjnsi

    Karhukjnsi Universal Wrestler

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    I like that aspect, it really shows them to be living creatures rather than robots with really good AI.

    They ain't exactly robots in disguise, they're robot-like aliens in disguise.
     
  4. Covenant

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    Um, yes, I noticed. I'm pretty sure anyone that saw the film noticed. :) 

    As far as hatchlings & aging, from Alpha Trion to G2 budding, Matrix restructuring its chosen Prime to Spark splitting & Protoforms, the aspects of such things used in RotF was okay, but (and I suspect its the Hollywood mindset driving it all that's responsible) it came off as, I dunno, what's the best way to say it...alien mothership at the end of X-Files meets Aliens hatchery? It's just that Transformers, since the coming of Protoforms to the fiction, has done well to have a certain look to the chambers & pods in which the Protoforms reside. The hatchlings, meh, didn't care for them, or their general look, certainly didn't care for how they were shown to grow.


    But, and this is the reason I really posted, I just really feel the need to point out; Anyone that's ever worked heavily on an engine is aware of the various goops, sludge & liquids you'll encounter. I see the slimey de-spining of Ravage displaying nothing organic, but more the purely mechanical equivalent.
     
  5. Paxtin

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    This.
     
  6. MegaHavok

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    Nah their still machines, spiting, crying, breathing and all that stuff is just Ilm's way of humanizing the characters so people associate with them better. Starscream spit on sam so he could express his disgust without having to talk
     
  7. Primesfist

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    Yeah, I think it was a good move making them have skeletal structures and apparent breath etc. It made them more sophisticated imo.
     
  8. Skepticon

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    Its not a bad thing...theyre organisms.... Robotic organisms, way beyond human understanding...

    theyre supposed to age and stuff

    Although in a much different way from humans.
     
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    It was in the first movie too. No talks like, "my optics", or "my logic circuits".
     
  10. Primesfist

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    Vector Sigma!
     
  11. Covenant

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    ... ...go on.
     
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    I think it's Transformers Tourettes, Cov. :p 

    As for being more alien than machine, yeah the fluids and stuff is the mech equivalent of organic systems, but I would kinda like a bit more machine about things. When you're also adding in magical mcguffins like the Allspark and the Matrix then having spitting, pissing, farting Transformers they lose more and more of the cool mech about them. I do very much enjoy 'giant fucking robots', but sometimes they're a bit 'giant oozing alien Paul Daniels'. To me anyway.
     
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    I like it. The more alive a TF can appear the better in my opinion. I have always thought that they should have liquids inside them -- too many moving parts for them to lack any lubrication. Energon has to travel around their systems in some form. A liquid makes sense to me.
     
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    This.
     
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    That's the part that I like the most about the movies, they feel more alive, more like a outwordly race than just... gundams with a.i.
     
  16. Kaymac

    Kaymac I'M REALLY FEELIN' IT!

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    The movies are awesome at this kind of thing, heck, Transformers in general is awesome at it. Ever since G1 there've been ways of making the robots seem more human or more alien.
     
  17. Digilaut

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    I was slightly freaked out by the hatchlings scene..I acknowledge the fact that Transformers have protoforms and all that, but it seemed way too insecty/creepy to me.

    Also, I guess movie TFs actually grow into a full body? Eeeep!

    Different universe, different rules, though. :) 
     
  18. JakmanFirby

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    thats wat i liked bout it lol!
     
  19. shroobmaster

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    That's not movie exclusive, in many other series even G1 we see young robots that are smaller than the average one but get big when "adult".
     
  20. Digilaut

    Digilaut My name is Drift.

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    I don't remember that, or maybe my mind is blocking that :lol 
    I guess I just like the idea of robots being built more than robots just growing out of...something.

    Just a personal taste! :) 
     

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