Heavy/Scratch: MOM Optimus Prime

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  1. tonysandlin

    tonysandlin Well-Known Member

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    Hey all,

    I have a new project started that involves the recently released MPM 04 Optimus Prime. By now, many of you will know that it is plagued with tolerance and tabbing issues, but I believe there is real potential for improvement. Despite its current issues, which have been demonstrated by a few members to be easily corrected, this is my favorite iteration of movie Optimus. I am in the early planning stages of this project, so some ideas may be dropped, while others may be picked up as I learn the ins and outs of this figure and what is possible to modify. As of now, here is the current list of improvements I'd like to achieve.

    Improvements:
    - truck properly tabbed in
    - second set of wheels for alt mode
    - split wheels on hip and thigh
    - wider wheel wells
    - larger gas tanks
    - wider headache rack
    - full doors on chest
    - accurate Paul drons
    - accurate backpack configuration
    - more paint applications

    The first modification will be the second set of wheels and splitting tire. A few things to note about this. The Peterbilt truck has 2 sets of wheels on the rear, for a total of 8 wheels. In robot mode, this second set seems to disappear, when in reality, the split tires is caused by the first set collapsing into the second. This is a transformation that I would like to include, which will be unique to any movie Optimus figure I've seen so far.

    Here is the design plan: 20170921_140210.jpg

    A prototype made with card stock. I have it placed on as the outside tire, but you can imagine a final product on the inside. 20170921_181917.jpg 20170921_181941.jpg

    Of course, with a second set of tires, you would need a wider wheel well. Fortunately, the Leader class figure has just that. Additionally, the rear wheels on the actual truck stick out further on the sides. They are not flush with the tool box as represented on the MPM. Fender_Comparison.jpg transformers-cars-barrett-jackson-auction-01.png

    The first order of business is to design and 3d print a working tire. Next would be to remove the original tires, and install the new ones behind, then put the originals back on. A new pin will be required. Lastly, I will need to modify the Leader wheel well to work for the MPM.

    More to come...

    Suggestions and advice are welcome!
     
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  2. artimus prime

    artimus prime Collector of Multiple TF Lines

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    You have my attention. The wheels honestly aren't one of my gripes with MPM but would be a cool mod. The undersized fuel tanks and incomplete chest doors are though... good luck. I seriously hope you make MPM the masterpiece he should be.
     
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    Those will be tough to figure out, bit I think it's possible. I'll also get a sketch of the new headache rack later. That will also probably need to be 3d printed, but I'm unsure if I am skillful enough with a design program to be able to do that myself.
     
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    "MOM OPTIMUS PRIME" :lol 

    I'm excited to see where this goes.
     
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    Maybe someone who is skilled in that area would be willing to help?
     
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    That's what I'm hoping for. Perhaps someone who is willing to work on it for their own benefit as well so I'm not paying out the ass for commission lol

    I want to avoid 3d printing too much, because it won't look too nice, in my opinion. You can get away with the headache rack and the wheels, but everything else will probably need to be modified. Unless the quality of 3D printed plastic has gotten to the point where it will still look nice.
     
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    I would do it in a heartbeat if I could. I've never payed much attention to 3d modelling and printing though.
     
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    My only experience was creating swords and hands for my HA Sideswipe, which turned out well, but it was a pain in the butt to keep buying prototypes and wait weeks just to test them out. Especially when I'm only changing the tolerance just a bit. And now that I no longer have a computer capable of 3D design (damn chromebooks), ill have to work on designing at a library or something. Obviously not ideal lol
     
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    Here's a comparison of the fenders in vehicle mode:

    Fender_Comparison_2.jpg
     
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    Thanks! They are wider, which is good, but maybe a bit long. I'll need a junker prime to try out a mod to make those work.
     
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    clever idea with the wheels... I'm excited for this one, as well!
     
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    honestly the only reason i checked the thread. despite that, i wish you luck on this, @tonysandlin i can't imagine myself doing anything close to this!
     
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    Does anyone know a good way to remove the pins from the tires?
     
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    This guy here explains how to do it with a soldering iron:
     
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    OP's mom?Count me in.
     
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    Just removed the pin from the wheel using the soldering method. It works like a charm! And here is what the wheel would look like with another prototype. This time I've attached it from the back of the original wheel. I'll need a new, longer pin figured out to get both wheels on. Then I'll design and 3D print the wheels. 20170923_203803.jpg 20170923_211844.jpg
     
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    Maybe it will come with a rusty old truckstop shop complete with old couple? Then it will become "Mom and Poptimus Prime"...
     
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    So the wheel mod will take a back seat for the moment until I can find a way to make a 3D model and print out some prototypes. So far, everything is working well. I'm currently creating a new gas tank. I've got a spare Leader class tank that is wider, but also slightly longer. I'm going to cut it to a good size, probably the same length as the gas tank on the MPM. The good news is, I think I found a way to collapse the tank so that it resembles this here:
    3a-movie-optimus-04.jpg
    Hopefully, it won't look to strange. Oh, and that little silver panel just above the tank? I've got that figured out too!
     
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    Holly crap I never realized how far out from the side of the truck the rear fenders actually are. Honestly, the leader fenders might just work for you, if they're the correct length. Though, designing and printing them might be best.
     
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