Discussion in 'Video Games and Technology' started by Primal, Aug 15, 2006.
Source: CNN.com Technology
Somebody should make a real Perfect Dark game for 360 then.
just remember, anything you create on XNA Game Studio Express program will become Microsoft's property or you create the game for us, we pay you 1/100th what we regular companies...lol
I wondered when someone was going to post this.
I've yelled about XNA on here before, but few listened. Now witness what you can get when you have a common development environment for your desktop OS and gaming console, a managed code framework where you don't need to worry about boilerplate tasks, and access to to a delivery system with unmatched robustness and elegance.
I'm probably going to grab the set myself. This could be very interesting.
you have pay a yearly subscribtion to make game on the 360?
well thats stupid.
You have no idea how the industry works, do you?
yeah i know how it works but they are charging you money to make it, and then they are making money when they sell it.
As opposed to;
Developers paying MS directily for Dev Kits and support?
Developers paying MS directly for duplication and printing costs?
Wow, double money, and lots of it!
i'm under the assumption that its free on pc. thats the only reason it bothers me.
Sounds pretty cool to me.
This is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to XNA and its significance to small-time coders and the industry as a whole. Kudos MS!
I wonder how long it will take for someone to make a porn video game
While it should by no means be free, I don't think it should have an anual fee, aspecially such a large one. A one time charge of $99 would be the most I would be willing to pay. All it is is software, and very slimmed down at that. The only software I am willing to pay a subscription for is an MMORPG since they get tons of upgrades which makes the money worth it. It's rediculous that they say that this is to get kids interested in software development when the pricetag puts it out of reach of most kids.
Another flaw is that the games will be only distributed through X-Box live. Will they place a charge on the homebrew games like they do for other game downloads? People should be able to distribute thier homebrew games however they choose.
The most rediculous part is that they actually compare this to YouTube. The only way this would be like YouTube is if it was a free service for amateur game developers to show off thier projects, which it isn't.
$99 is not a large licencing fee, especially when development tools are involved.
No it isn't, read the posts from people who actually know what they are talking about. Your getting use of a common development platform, a bargain price console development kit, a licence to use Microsoft's ready-made code in your own software and acess to a unique distribution system that delivers to an otherwise inpenetrable sector of the market.
They can, they just don't get to take advantage of the services that Microsoft offers unless they use thier development kit. There are plenty of other solutions out there if people don't want to do that, althougth none of them gives you a route into console distribution or hosting on a service with millions of gaurenteed users.
Or if it had an increadably poor business model that hemoraged money without generating any worthwhile return.
I never said it was a good business model. I just said that they shouldn't compare this to YouTube. I know that it is very cheap for the development tools. My objections are to the way it is being described in the article. Descriptions such as
"It's our first step of creating a YouTube for video games", and "There's a problem where kids have stopped getting excited about getting into software development. One way to get kids excited about it is to give them something they want to do. A lot of kids play video games" are misleading. The software is nothing like YouTube, and very few kids can afford it. While it might end up in schools, I can't see it being very widespread. If they advertised it more accurately I would have no problem with it. I still wouldn't buy it since I don't have the money or the interest, but I wouldn't have any problem with it either.
Its like YouTube in the sense that users create content and upload it to the service so others can enjoy it.
Plus it doesent actually say either way whether the hosting and distribution is part of the $99 or whether it comes free. If it is free and the $99 is just for the tools and code, then the only real difference between this and YouTube is the level of quality control since decent video editing software isn't free either.
As for the bit about the kids, its not Microsoft that is saying that. Its just a qoute from some rent-a-pundit that AP has put in thier news article to make it sound more interesting, this isn't an actuall press release from Microsoft.
OK, if it's the rent-a-pundit saying that then it's ok.
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