Megatron a former Prime?

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  1. BluRayHiDef

    BluRayHiDef Well-Known Member

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    I've read a few comments on these boards as well as elsewhere concerning the idea that Megatron and Optimus are truly brothers (not in a figurative sense) and that Megatron is/ was a Prime. It seems as if this idea originates with Optimus' words to the befallen Megatron in the first Transformers film, You left me no choice, brother. I always believed that he was speaking figuratively, as in my fellow Cybertronian. However, some people have apparently taken it seriously. Even the Transformers Wiki treats this idea as canonical fact.

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    So, is this idea cannon or is it just fan-fiction?
     
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    Who the devil knows? Certainly not the writers,
     
  3. BluRayHiDef

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    Well, I think the idea is absurd. Megatron a Prime? So, his original name was Megatron Prime? I don't think so.
     
  4. LumpimusPrime

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    I like the IDW idea that Megs was a former lower class gladiator type figure before his rise to power...
    though I doub't this is the case in the movie-verse.
     
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    According to Optimus and I quote "Primes are born not made".
    Megatron cannot be a Prime. Since in ROTF (game) that is what the Fallen promised him. But after Optimus said the line above Megatron takes his vengence. Just know I am saying this from the game not the movie.
     
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    Doesn't Optimus say something like that in the movie?
     
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    Considering that all tf's come from the well of all sparks... they are all siblings... Just saying.
     
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    I see how they may be brothers, but I don't see how Megatron might have been a Prime. The Wiki blurb says there were two leadership positions on Cybertron, one was the Lord High Protector and the other was Prime. Megatron was the Protector and the Optimus was Prime. Doesn't seem to me that Megatron was ever Prime.

    So maybe they were brothers, but only Optimus was a Prime.
     
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    Well wasn't Optimus technically "made" not "born" cause he was Orion before.....but Alpha Trion made him Optimus Prime.
    Help me out cause I never understood that.
     
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    I think the easiest way to explain that is 'the movies are not G1'. While in G1 it may have been done like that, it seems to me that they're going for something else in the movies.

    Unless there's some official movie thing that says Optimus was once Orion Pax and was given the Prime title by Alpha Trion, in which case I got nothing.
     
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    Megatron is not a Prime. he may be Optimus brother but he's not a prime. afterall He's working with the fallen Because Fallen promised him the powers of a prime, if he were a prime he would have those powers now

    while the Novel Adaptations, Games and Comics Adaptations are not canon Optimus explains primes ARE born Not made, which mean Optimus was born as a Prime but not Megatron
     
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    I think they mean "born" in the destiny sense. As in, Orion Pax WAS born to be a Prime, whether he knew it or not... just like Hotrod...even though he became on wuss of a Prime.
     
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    ^THIS
     
  14. BluRayHiDef

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    I just find the idea of them being actual siblings to be a bit far out. They're so different, both in terms of their philosophies, personalities, and appearance. How could they possibley be brothers?
     
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    So siblings have to think alike and look alike to be siblings?
     
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    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Well the game was baed on the older draft of the movie and made way more sense than the movie itself.
     
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    Probabley maybe and never we dont know!!! Now if they did a prequel film then we know! Know body know about the great war on cybertron! I think they sould do a film on that!
     
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    Megatronus, is the fallen. Megatron took his name from him, Per ''Exodus''
     
  20. BluRayHiDef

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    Is this true or is it your own conjecture?
     

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