Customs: Masterpiece Trypticon

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  1. Tigertrack

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    I've seen some amazing custom Masterpiece figures on this bored. I've seen Metroplex, Fortress Maximus, Omega Supreme, and numerous others. One character I have yet to see is Trypticon!
    Has anybody done a Masterpiece of him? If so, can somebody post a link? I'd love to see one. If nobodies done one yet, anybody want to?
    Although I can't imagine he's been ignored.
    He would certainly be a killer Masterpiece. Twice the size of original figure, highly articulated, blah, blah, blah.
    Thank you in advanced.
     
  2. UltraMagnus3786

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    can you link to some of the other masterpieces you mention? would love to see those as well!
     
  3. Mathius Maximus

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    Trypticon is an awful awful character. He's huge and yet he has no robot mode. Just a big, clunky, dinosaur that's not even as bright as grimlock. He was semi-interesting in Zone, but of course we see how long that lasted. Awful toy too. Anything with a motorized gimmick always sucked as a toy. Didn't they try to make him walk or something? I remember I had the toy as a kid and was terribly disappointed. There didn't seem to be anything to do with it. The city mode was pointless without any characters to go inside him and the robot mode was poorly articulated (probably because of the motors).

    Mathius
     
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    still an epic character but i have no idea what to say as far as a base to start with
     
  5. Tigertrack

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    I would think not having a robot mode would make it relatively simple.
     
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    His robot mode IS the dinosaur. He's a city bot, which means he's gargantuan in size. Therefore, he doesn't need to be bright because he can destroy a whole city by walking over it. He was also reportedly going to make an appearance in Animated had it continued on past season 3, which would have been totally epic.

    As for an MP figure, the only way I see of reasonably doing it would be to upgrade the original toy since that would be the most sane way of making an MP-style version of the dinosaur. Plus, that's how most other cityformer "MP's" were created as well.
     
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    I can imagine studying MP Grimlock since they are supposedly both T-Rex's. Use Grimlock as a guide for making MP Trypticon.
     
  8. Superquad7

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    I really hate to bring up this topic in this thread, but I think it does bare relevance: often times artists who are posting customs use the toy line of "Masterpiece" a bit haphazardly. There is some confusion with "G1 toy made to be highly articulated" and "toy made to be the closest representation to the cartoon counterpart with some modern updates".

    For example, if I take a G1 Starscream and compare it to a MP Starscream, the figures are entirely different. Sure, an artist could take a G1 SS, give it some articulation and change a few things here and there, but that doesn't necessarily make it "fit" in the Masterpiece line.

    Good examples of the above are the customs by TheDevastator and turboedguy. Both of these artists are known for taking G1 versions of toys, making certain alterations, and the end result is a G1 toy that is typically articulated and additionally detailed. Yet, I've never seen either artist post their work as "Masterpiece X" (where 'X' is the character/custom).

    I think scale is an issue as well. I'm certainly not suggesting that a "MP Trypticon" be in scale with the other MP figures, since there is no established scale. I also think it worthy to consider that "Classics/Generations" may be better suited for much of what's been recently tagged as "Masterpiece". As far as Trypticon goes, I'm thinking of Viagra Prime's custom. He carefully considered what line he wanted to fit it in based on much the same principle.

    This is not to say that any particular custom isn't a "masterpiece" of a TF custom, given the general definition of what a "masterpiece" is. I'll end there, as I've said, I believe this discussion has taken place a few times already.

    Regardless of your own opinion of the character, the thread started simply said he'd like to see a Masterpiece version of Trypticon and was wondering if anyone has done this piece or plans on it.

    The above type of post is a bit more suited for TF General Discussion or TF Toy Discussion :wink: 

    However, perhaps you have some suggestions for some artists who may intend to make this custom based on your thoughts above?
     
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    Thank you for your post there Supersquad. The Masterpiece line is usually much bigger in size than their G1 counterparts. I believe it is that larger size that allows room for the articulation and detailing that they have. Imagine trying to fit the same detailing and articulation in G1 size.
    That said, I have been watching the build-up of the 7 foot Metroplex and that can certainly be classified as a "Masterpiece". A Trypticon would be approximately same size or perhaps 10 feet tall. If one wanted scale.
    Wether or not you consider it a "Masterpiece", I still wonder if anybody has done a highly detailed or highly articulated Trypticon wether being same size as original, or larger.
     
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    Did Don Fig do something for his Macromasters customs? I remember he made a 3 ft tall figure based off of Fort Max, and a 2 ft tall figure based off of Metroplex.
     
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    "masterpiece" is a touchy subject, like SQ7 pointed out. some ppl have different aspects of the term. I personally think of a MP as an above scaled, articulated version of the character, compared to an MP prime. But seeing how they have changed their MP scales, it now depends. MP doesn't make since to me anymore, ever since:

    MP grimlock is a larger articulated versions of his toy, but not in scale with prime.

    I'm def. anxious to see if anemis does trypticon, a "real" MP version.
     
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    Here's one. Dunno where it's from or who made it. I found this pic on 2chan.net's mecha board a few years ago.
     

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    I've honestly been toying with the idea of doing either a G1 style Supreme Trypticon or a WFC style Supreme Trypticon.

    Both would be massive scratchbuilds in order to achieve what I would want done.
     
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    good points for sure. I think the main issue you and others might have is the "scale" thing. Now what figure from Takara's MP line is scaled properly? We know Megatron and Prime are completely off-scale compared to the seekers and grimlock..rodimus prime (from what I've heard) will fit more towards the MP seeker scale. If you can decide a definitive Takara "MP" figure to base scale from, then I think it's safe and fine to declare a custom that scales to that named figure a MP as long as it has (1) high detail (2) good articulation (3) optional gimmick (eg LEDs or noises)

    that being said, heavily articulating a G1 Perceptor WOULD scale perfectly next to a MP (says it on the box) Seeker. Perceptor would stand about shoulder height. close enough for me.

    On the same side of the token, if we are banking on the scale issue.... a MP Trypticon/Scorponok/Fort Max/Metroplex will NEVER exist, unless of course, they fit within the "official" scale you (personally) declare as "MP scale" If scaling vs. MP Prime, MP Omega Supreme would need to be about 13' tall...
     
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    Yeah, I'm in the early stages of making a Henkei Metroflex with the Cybertron Leader Metroplex mold. Naturally he's going to need a Trypticon at the other end of my shelf to stare at and taunt.

    I looked a bit into some Zoids kits thinking they might be the best approximation to Tryp's dino-mode (I want to say I found the Gojulas Giga to be both too large and too expensive). It'd certainly take a LOT of work to get one that transforms with a decent City mode to boot.

    Trypticon is no doubt one of the more difficult customs to attempt. There just isn't too much nowadays to work off of. But I suppose that's the challenge I have to work through.
     
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    I think the subject has become touchy because some are touchy with it, as they may think that their customs get slammed or other similar undesirable things as a result. For me and when I discuss this, that's not the case. It's simply one of those left-brained things that simply has to be dealt with on some level at some point for everyone - categories.

    Even though I did mention scale, like the above, it's one of those things that an artist has to address at some point. The Masterpiece line started with Convoy, and he is roughly 1:28th scale. As far as scale goes, the fact that I used "roughly" covers it, especially since the Convoy wasn't a specific model of truck, much like how Classics/Generations toys are designed to approximate. Where the line is blurred even more is when people display MP versions with their Alt/BT toys that are scaled.

    Masterpiece, much like tv said, is an larger-scaled version of the character with added articulation and modern technology. I'd even say that they're aimed for collectors and the adult crowd (as in not designed with a lot of toy play in mind, like say Armada is).

    I also think Oh has hit another nail on the head with the concept of scratchbuilds when creating a character that doesn't use the base mold of an existing MP (I'm referring to repaints here, not necessarily simply using a base mold for any particular custom, as the MP molds can certainly be used for non-MP style customs). anemis has understood this and executed this idea quite well over the years.

    While I mentioned scale, it would not be the main issue I'd have, as I posted above. Scale, in any line, is simply one of those things that we have to address when we put two toys together in any given circumstance.

    If scale truly were the main issue for me, I'd totally pass on the MP Seekers, since the jets would be a lot larger in scale with the other MPs.

    Really the only line scale is "an issue" for me is Alt/BT since one of the core concepts of the line is 1:24 scale. Everything else is fudged in one way or another, whether it's "mass shifting" or robot modes simply need to be close, etc. That being said, as a G1 collector, scale can rarely be an issue :lol 

    Yeah, that's a cool custom :) 

    Those plans sound really cool, btw :) 

    Making a MP version of Trypticon would no doubt be a difficult one to attempt, if the above discussion is truly considered. That being said, articulating a G1 Trypticon is no simple task either :lol 

    To veer the discussion back to Trypticon a bit more, one feature I'd like to see is the chest opening as in the episode, "Call of the Primitives":

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    (More screen caps here)
     

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    Who's Supersquad? :ev: 


    :poke 

    (you're welcome :) )
     
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    SQ7, if I can ever get to my Trypticon project, then yea I will include his opening chest, just for you buddy.
     

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