Masterforce questions

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  1. Ruination04

    Ruination04 8 Years Old Since 1984!

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    How many Masterforce episodes are there and what is the show actually about? I've gonna get the ones floating around on Iaconhub and just wondered if it was worth my time.
     
  2. Gryph

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    This is just the basic idea without ruining anything.

    The series starts with the Pretenders. Transformers that can disguise themselves as living things as opposed to just machines. On the Cybertron side they take the form of humans. On the Destron side they take the form of monsters. There aren't many characters at the begining of the show. Just a few pretenders on each side and a couple other transformers mixed in.

    Later on in the series, Godmasters (powermasters) and Headmaster jr.'s show up on both sides. Eventually Black Zarak apears and that's when the shows real plot begins.

    I unfortunately don't know how many episodes there are.
     
  3. Orodruin

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    There's 42 episodes. It starts off with Pretenders vs Pretenders, (and I probably have the order a little screwed up from here on) then the token human kids get these bracelets that let them use TF bodies (called Transectors- the idea being that these are new bodies for certain TFs elsewhere in the galaxy that got stuck on Earth somehow) and the kids become JR headmasters. Then the powermasters show up doing pretty much the same kind of thing. It gets really good later on when God Bomber comes into the picture.

    Definitely get the sub (around 240 megs per ep), the dub that Star TV did was horrendous.
     
  4. Nevermore

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    And PLEASE don't let yourself getting confused by that craptacular Star TV dub.

    That Japanese truck driver who controls a red robot that looks like Optimus Prime is named "Ginrai". The robot is called "Ginrai", when he's combined with his trailer, he's "Super Ginrai", and when he's combined with the additional "Godbomber" trailer, he's "God Ginrai".

    Star TV decided to give all characters the names of their toys' Western counterparts, thus "Ginrai" became "Optimus Prime", despite being a separate character (the robot body was originally created to serve as a new body for Convoy/Optimus Prime, but ended up with a different identity).
     
  5. Star Sabre James

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    You mean that the truck is not optimus prime. Time to end it all now.


    If you can not get the sarcasm you should
     
  6. x0x_chrome_x0x

    x0x_chrome_x0x Chronical collector

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    Masterforce is one of the best transformers series ever made, topped only by Victory.
     
  7. Gryph

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    If I'm not mistaken, the truck driver was also called Optimus Prime. XD
     
  8. Chris McFeely

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    Just because I can't let the thread pass without mentioning it - the entire Masterforce series is being released on DVD in the UK at the end of next month, in it's original Japanese with subtitles.
     
  9. Sol Fury

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    Yep. "Mr Optimus Prime, this way please!"
    The dub is so bad that it simply has to be seen!
     
  10. Fairlady_Z

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    I've only seen 8 episodes of Masterforce or so, the bad Star TV dubs too so maybe I'm missing something, but considering how much people complain about "human dominated" shows like Armada, Masterforce seems to be just as bad an offender. Ginrai is plioted by a human it appears (someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) The Junior Headmasters are really annoying if I remember correctly, it's been a while. And Overlord? (the Decepticon that has two binary bonded partners, one of which is female) appears to be human piloted as well.

    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about the human piloting thing, because as I've said I've only seen 8 badly dubbed episodes. I don't know much about the show and want to know more about it too. But one of the main reasons I love Transformers is becuase they are SENTIENT robots. If Masterforce uses the TFs more or less as "battlesuits" for human pilots like in Gundam or Voltron then I'm not interrested in watching it. But if I'm mistaken due to faulty memory and bad dubbing I may want to see it after I finish watching Headmasters. So for those of you who have seen the whole series and really like it please explain why.
     
  11. Chris McFeely

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    No, neither the dub nor your memory are failing you - Masterforce is indeed primarily about human beings. They don't so much PILOT the lifeless Transformer bodies, however, as they do MERGE with them and BECOME them. The process is nothing as simple as climbing into a cockpit and pulling controls to pilot the robots, but actually uniting with them as one singular entity. Ginrai, to use your example, is not PILOTED by a human... Ginrai IS a human.

    But, anyway, as to why it's good - it's *written well,* for starters. And whereas the sensation of recent Japanese TF series (and, indeed, even Headmasters) is to often have the supporting human characters *overshadow* the Transformers, who should be the main cast, in this case, it's the human beings who ARE the main cast. That said, it remains a very different approach to Transformers that I can see many, many people having a hard time being open to.
     
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    Thanks for the information Chris. Very helpful. I think I'm going to pass on Masterforce for now though.

    Do you know anything about Victory? I've only seen two or three episodes of it, but I remember liking Star Saber.
     
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    Victory is pretty much like Masterforce in terms of how the focus as well as plot progression

    Difference is that with Masterforce the main focus is Chokojin power & the transectors.In Victory the main cast are the Brainmasters,Micromasters and Breastforce
     
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    Victory is a bit more back to basics compared to Masterforce. In a sense, Victory returns to some of the principles of Season 3 and Headmasters, but it does them differently. In my opinion, Victory treats the whole setup far better, it's what Season 3 could have been.
     
  15. Orodruin

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    Victory had a very pre-movie feel to it. While there was a decent amount of long term plot structure, there were also a lot of episodes (feels that way looking back at any rate) that were your run of the mill "stop the Decepticons from stealing the energy from this special new power source of the week" type plots. And of course Victory had some great figures to go with it. :D 
     
  16. Sky garry

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    masterforce is 47 episodes.
    42 episodes plus 5 recall episode.
    offical DVD already released 42 episodes and 2 recall episode.
    last 3 episode had lost....
     
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    5 recall episodes? I didn't know that. Is one of them the Big Book of Masterforce? TV-Nihon has great subtitled versions of Masterforce.
     
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  19. Chris McFeely

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    Yeah, "Big Book" is the fifth of the five clip episodes, with an extra seven-minute segment tacked onto the end of it. The clip eps were created for video releases, not for broadcast on TV, but "Big Book" actually did get aired, as the final episode of the series screened.
     

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