Man dies of thirst during survival test

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  1. drippy

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    That's insane.
     
  3. Bryan

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    I don't have any words for this. I just...he's dead for no reason at all.
     
  4. drippy

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    It is.

    And I'm still trying to figure out what my responses to the questions asked in the OP would be if I was in the business of pushing people beyond what they think they are capable of.
     
  5. Dark_Convoy

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    Seriously WTF, if the guy is so bad off he's talking to trees, THAT should have constituted and emergency.
     
  6. drippy

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    How atypical do you think that is in that line of work?

    I'm not being sarcastic or anything, I really don't know.

    Could it be something they see on every outing? Every other outing? Once a season? Never?
     
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    I don't know, I'm only looking at it from my own perspective, from what I understand hallucination is a sign of severe dehydration.

    It would have been better to play it safe and let him fail the course in any event.

    I'm interested in knowing if this is a common occurrence.
     
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    I did the medic thing in Iraq, and if one of my soldiers had hallucinated while we were working outside the wire, his ass woulda been headed straight back to base. If he actually collapsed, or if his vitals were off, I would have called a bird and no one would have given me a hard time about it.

    Altered mental status means things are moving along dangerously--the body protects the brain at the expense of other organs as long as it can, so once that's showing signs of illness, it's serious.

    And if I found out someone hadn't had a drink in ten hours, I would have lost my goddam mind at them.

    If these people do that regularly to their vic...I mean, clients, then it probably wasn't all that uncommon. Not that it's okay, just that they were asking for somebody to die.
     
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    Unbelievable. There are no words. People pay for this?
     
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    Constant Hallucinations? I would hope never. That's the brain failing and the body shutting down; the last sign before the onset of death.

    I was a Boy Scout, and beyond camping a lot, I was also Order of the Arrow, which had an initiation similar to this, surviving on your own with nothing.

    During one of our hikes, we had a fellow scout hallicinate, to which we suspended the hike for an hour, rested, and rehydrated. A single hallucination is bad, but it's bearable. After a bit, he recovered, we waited out the hour, then continued. He was fine, we made it within our target time, no problems. Another time, just friend and myself took a hike, and he ended up dehydrated. I had to carry him the last mile back to camp, and he had two or three hallucinations along the way. I carried him back to first aide, and he was nearly hospitalized for dehydration.

    Getting sick I would think they'd see every time. A single hallucination probably every time, or every other time. Multiple Hallucinations? I would hope almost never. Constant? As I said, I would hope never.
     
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    It seems to me that hallucinations must happen relatively frequently or the guides would have been all over him with their emergency water.

    And if the whole point of this survival test is to push people way beyond anything they think they are capable of, what constitutes an emergency?

    I'm inferring from your comments that you view multiple hallucinations as an emergency situation in this case. I think I'm going to agree.
     
  12. KA

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    so he failed the course then?
     
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    That is really messed up KA, it is so uncool.....






    That you stole my reply. Sorry, but it is the first thing I thought.

    Poor guy though, pretty senseless.
     
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    Stole my response there too buddy..
     
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    It seems like its one of those things that's probably going to happen anyway with a course like that. It's only made more tragic by the fact that it happened so close to the water source. If you think about it though, that where it's most likely to happen. He went through the whole day and suffered through the whole hike and was so close to the water source, why rob him of making it there at that point.

    But if he had been hallucinating several times, more than just the tree time, then that emergency water should have been taken out.

    I'd be curious to see the course of the land that they're walking. It sounds like there were plenty of trees to rest and walk under to help deal with the sun.
     
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    I would've said something. I mean so what if you get called a candy ass, get some water or something. Dont ever let yourself go to that limit, but the peeps should've looked out when he was talking to things that dont talk back.
     
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    Note to self: Never go on a trip where the waiver they have me sign includes "In case of death".
     
  18. Team Jetfire

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    :lol 

    If I were in survival mode, I would hoard all the water I could...

    this BOSS group should be shut down....

    I feel for his family.
     

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