Quit trying to incite eachother in to arguments. Quit making threads calling out "Lovers", "Haters", whatevers... it's not constructive. It's trolling pure and simple. From now on any threads labelled as such will be closed. Opinions can be asked for without calling for one particular "group" out. There is absoloutely no need for it. Neither "side" seems to be able to conduct themselves with tact or restraint in said threads for long. Why? They're starting off on completely the wrong foot. You post aggressively, you get aggression in kind. So let's at least try and start things on the right foot from now on and let the shitstorms occur as naturally as can be rather than waving the red rag at the proverbial bull. Thanks for taking the time to read.