Customs: Looking for the Voyager Classics Prime arm mod

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  1. Lucs

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    Can anyone help me find a tutorial or at least pics of the Classics Voyager Optimus Prime arm mod that removes the cab/window kibble from the arms and puts it on his back connected to the grill?
     
  2. Superquad7

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    We haven't had a tutorial submitted yet. I do think there are some project threads where some artists discuss the process some though.

    If you find some useful things, feel free to post them in this thread here :) 
     
  3. hXcpunk23

    hXcpunk23 The Chaos Bringer

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    If I can find some time, I'll post a tutorial. Just did it for my Classics Prime WIP that I've shared some of not long ago here. It's pretty easy and you only need to cut or dremel a few pieces in order to do it.

    I can give a quick walkthrough, minus the pictures (most of my stuff is packed up--about to move to an apartment in the next week or so). But I can try to dig it out and share in the next day or two, if I find the time.

    Here's what I did and the tools I used:

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    Dremel
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    How To (w/pics, thanks to tfkenkon.com)

    1) Transform Classics Prime into bot mode.

    2) Using your soldering iron, heat the pin that holds the door onto the arm flap (the small flat pin that is embedded into the rounded part of the door hinge). This is marked in green on the picture

    3) Repeat on both arms....the doors should now pop off, leaving the rounded hinge piece still attached to the main door/arm hinge. This is marked in green on the picture

    4) Transform Prime's arms as you normally would, wrapping the hinged parts around the backside of the forearm and you should now have the rounded hinged part on the side of the forearm.

    5) Take the doors you removed and on the insides, you'll see a clear blue tab sticking out (just above the side windows). Cut these off (flush against the rest). This is marked in yellow on the picture. You also need to cut off the entire rounded hinged piece that still remains attached to the doors themselves. This will allow the doors to swing up and into place in alt mode, once you have the pieces glued into place later. This is marked in green on the picture--cut and removed the hinge and clear blue parts that hold the hinge on the door--but leave the rounded hinge area that is still attached to the bot arms.

    6) Now look at the front grill of the truck in bot mode. You'll see two tabs that stick off to the sides of the grill. These need to be cut off flush with the sides of the grill (these are the two tabs that the door/arm pieces used to "snap" into). This is marked in red on the picture

    7) You'll need to attach the front ends of the truck to the truck bumper using super glue (the door/arm pieces you removed earlier). This is marked in blue on the picture

    8) Let the glue dry, then transform into alt mode. Be sure to fold the bumper down fully on Prime's back to allow his arms and chest to swivel around. Transform the arms as you normally would. Now flip the bumper up and it should easily slide into place and look factory (like you never altered it or modded it.

    This does give Prime a bit of a backpack, but you can fold the bumper up, which allows the door parts to sit close to the back. It gives a MUCH better look for the bot mode and the alt mode is unchanged. Hopefully you get the idea from this picture and the areas I circled to help show where to do the mods.

    These pictures should help you see the parts I cut and how it all fits together (along with a sort-of transformation sequence with the new mods).....also, keep in mind that my Classics Prime is still a WIP and he still needs to be painted (I did detail the insides of the cab and line the windows in silver--the red and blue you see was basically a test to see if I liked those shades for him....the blue will be darker on the final version):

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  4. hXcpunk23

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    I'll try to get some pics of my mods to this on my Classics Prime soon. Just swamped and busy with the packing and all. And Allen, you can use this for a tutorial if you like. Once I get some pics of mine, you can update it and add in other pictures if others want to share also.
     
  5. Superquad7

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    Awesome. Thanks so much for contributing, bud :thumb 
     
  6. Kouri

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    Yanno, my process was almost exactly the same, and I just about have all the pictures needed to go either way. The only difference between us is I didn't trim the red-circled portions on the grill, but rather the colliding plastic on the door panels. I figured those tabs on the grill helped to align the door panels on properly while gluing. I also reinforced the connection between panel and bumper, just because the super glue seemed to snap on me every now and again. Otherwise, just about the same as you. :thumb 
     
  7. Lucs

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    Thanks for the help guys but almost immediately after I posted this I figured I'd just give it a try and it worked out fine. I did almost everything as you describe hXcpunk23 but instead of heating the pin up on that dark red piece I just cut the whole thing off, which ended up looking a bit more rough than I think your method but I'm fine with it.
     
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    :useless 

    SQ7 wants to resource this thread! :) 
     
  9. hXcpunk23

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    I'll try to snap some later today/tonight, Allen.
     
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    Hugz from me! I'm really glad you guys are hopping on this. :thumb 
     
  11. hXcpunk23

    hXcpunk23 The Chaos Bringer

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    Updated my post above with tons of pics (in transformation sequence) to help show the mods and areas that had work done. Feel free to use this as a tutorial, Allen!
     
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    Awesome! Thank you, sir :thumb 
     
  13. Kouri

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    Just adding to the festivities with a pictorial walk-through. Most of the info's redundant, but a few differences and add-ons that might make it worthwhile.

    The big difference between my set up and hXcpunk23's is that, rather than trimming the grill tabs off to accommodate the door panels, I trim the door panels to accommodate those grill tabs. The reasoning for this is simple: I'm accident-prone and take every opportunity I get to idiot-proof my work. Leaving the tabs in place gives another place to check the placement of the panels in relation to the alt mode.

    That's not to say my decision is the better one. Clear plastic is generally harder and more brittle than solid plastic. This means that not only is it more difficult to cut, but, especially when dealing with the $12 KOs, more prone to cracking under stress. Weigh the benefits and downfalls and make the decision you're most comfortable with.

    The rest is just reinforcing the mod to handle the stress of transformation. I've had a panel snap off once or twice from handling, so anything to help the super glue will be of use here. Also a random bit about the holes left on Prime's arms.

    So yeah, a few weeks later than I intended, but hopefully better late than never!


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    No, that wasn't a typo. It is important to test the fit before you glue, and even more so WHILE THE GLUE IS SETTING. It'll be a pain to snap the piece off and try again, especially if you're dealing with brittle KO clear plastic.

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    Kouri, I can add your distinctiveness to our own :lol  Thanks for your contribution :thumb 
     
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    . . . . and done! I love it when you guys make my job easy! Images were attached, attachments links were used in line with the post, and your grammar was done well :)  When Radicons do this, the tutorial goes up a LOT quicker :wink: 
     
  16. Optimist_Prime

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    You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. :lol 
     
  17. NeoZeRo35

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    Sweet tutorial Kouri! I've been looking forward to this ever since you first mentioned it in another thread. I'm only now finding it. Haha. Couple questions though...

    How do I remove the pin in the first step?

    And would I still be able to mount the wind vane + gun/smokestacks combo with this mod like I normally do like in this picture?

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    You can use a soldering iron to remove the pin.
     

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