you are all right, it isn't the rating that makes them great. it is the mindset that does. when fox chooses to make these movies r rated, they are choosing to take greater risks. to take things a lot more seriously. to not spam the audience with characters who appear just to show their stupid powers in a one second scene. i am fairly certain the whole x-men franchise post first class is just an excuse to get Jennifer Lawrence naked on the set.
Don't worry- at one point the offers for rolls will start slowing down for her and so she'll whip 'em out just to keep working.
Spoiler I don't know if this has been brought up before, but this is the first superhero movie to ever permanently kill the main character and the star of his or her franchise. Superman died in Batman v. Superman, but we all know he will come back to life in Justice League in the same continuity. The ending of Batman v. Superman even hints at it and doesn't even try to fool us. Quicksilver died in Age of Ultron, and he has not come back yet. However, he was introduced in the same movie, and he wasn't a main character. Watchmen is about the only thing I can think of that comes close, but it's an ensemble movie and a one off. Wolverine has been the face of the film franchise since it began. With the way he died, there is no coming back from it. The only way he could come back is through more time travel nonsense (which some filmmaker would be absolutely foolish to do) or through more prequels.
It depends how people interpret that bullshit wannabe "meta" ending of The Dark Knight Rises. Outside of that, yes, Spoiler Logan is the only superhero movie (franchise) where the main/title character is killed off.
Yeah, neither did I, but apparently it is according to tons of people that popped up arguing that it wasn't real yada yada yada... and then further backed up by Nolan saying something to the effect of "it's whatever ending you want it to be". So he essentially Inception'd his trilogy, because, I don't know... "clever" or "highbrow" and whatever else.
Oh I'M not inferring anything. All I was pointing out is that there are apparently a lot of people that think he actually died, and then there's most of us that took it at face value that he indeed "lived happily ever after" and all that because that's exactly what was shown. Then, Nolan swings in later and says that the ending is "whatever you want it to be", as in, it could be either scenario dependent on your perspective. Which I think is ridiculous. Anyway, this isn't new information. This BS debate has been going on for years now... even on these forums when TDKR was released.
Okay yeah I agree. I always took it as he alive. I mean it even points to it with the Autopilot scene. I don't know how you could deny something that had an entire scene, and scene before, dedicated to it. As for Nolan though. I think that was more of a "just like it and stop overthinking it/pestering me."
