Listing of Sunbow cartoon dialogue cuts

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  1. Greebtron

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    Indebted to @walruslaw for posting his collection of dialogue scripts, without which this project would not be possible: TF RAW!!!!: G1 Script Archive

    For the last week, I have been going through these scripts and listing all of the cuts to dialogue. If you're wondering why I'm starting part way through season 2, let me explain:
    For the prior 29 episodes, dialogue was numbered using the respective scene number on the 1st draft storyboards. From Dinobot Island through the rest of the series, all lines of dialogue that were passed through story-editing were individually numbered in order.
    Some of these scripts that are listed "As recorded" contain all dialogue, including deleted lines (These were easy to do as I could just cue up the episode for a listen and read). Others take the same word processor file and edit the script down to it's "slugged" version. As a lot of the latter type give up on consistent numbering about halfway through each episode, I've had to list the number of cut lines in a range between two numbered lines.

    * denotes line which was partly retained, but heavily truncated.

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    29 Dinobot Island, Part 1: 115, 116, 196.
    30 Dinobot Island, Part 2: 29-34, 48, 49, 90, 115, 116, 130, 131, 146-148, 155-158, 167.
    31 The Master Builders: 63, 72, 120, 121, 161, 177, 185.
    32 Auto Berserk: 1, 26, 40, 87, 90, 95, 234.
    33 Microbots: 80, 83, 84, 86, 92-94, 98-99, 104-106, 141-146, 178, 179, 201, 210, 215.
    34 Megatron's Master Plan, part 1: 43, 64, 82, 105, 113, 128?, 129?, 173, 185, 212, 213.
    35 Megatron's Master Plan, part 2: 16-25, 94, 141, 1 (additional)
    36 Desertion Of The Dinobots, Part 1: 14, 49-54, 61, 74, 92, 99, 100, 108, 136.
    37 Desertion Of The Dinobots, Part 2: 79, 91-98, 105-108, 111, 112, 133*-135, 139, 154, 184.
    38 Blaster Blues: 8-10, 16-22, 89, 122-124, 159, 167, 173, 174, 196, 202, 203, 213-219, 223-227, 229.
    39 A Decepticon Raider In King Arthur's Court: 1, 14, 15, 17*, 30, 43*, 44-50, 51*, 61, 72*, 77*, 81-84*, 95*, 99*, 130-131, 155, 159, 166, 168, 187, 199-204, 227, 246-256, 287, 288, 300*, 301-304,
    40 The Golden Lagoon: 49, 50, four lines 111-119, three lines 124-169, 176.
    41 The God Gambit: 50-54, 70-73, 82, 126, 130, 145, 166, 168, 169, 185-188, 191, 193, 194, 198, 202, 211,214, 223, 232 replaced.
    42 Make Tracks: 21, 22, 131, 153, 154, 174, 182, 186, 206-215, 217, 224.
    43 Child's Play: 1, 4-6, 11, 18, 20, 30-32, 66, two lines 195-199.
    44 Quest For Survival: 5, 12, 57-73, 93, One line 100-107, Five lines 110-117, four lines 121-129, five lines 135-149, four lines 164-186, four lines 222-238, two lines 240-247.
    45 The Secret Of Omega Supreme: 7, 33, two lines 65-70, 74, 75 93, five lines 103-118, three lines 120-127, two lines 131-137, eleven lines 139-163, four lines 190-197, four lines 203-232, six lines 240-266.
    46 The Gambler: 4-13, 20-23, seven lines 151-181, fourteen lines 201-227, two lines 231-263.
    47 Kremzeek!: Fifteen lines 1-34, 43, 49 71-73, 87, 88, 91, 92, seven lines 104-152.
    48 Sea Change: 15, 21, 22, 26, 27, 58, 59, 61, 65, 67, 78-82, 88-96, 100, 103, seven lines 118-136, six lines 151-160, 163-166, 168-172, fourteen lines 182-213, 228, 232-239, eight lines 242-252, 258-263, three lines 273-280, 284, 285, five lines 289-296, 310, five lines 312-318, 332.
    49 Triple Takeover: 25-61, 103, four lines 106-125, eleven lines 130-162, seven lines 176-188, 206, eight lines 237-252.
    50 Prime Target: 33, 34, 40, 43*, 45, 55, 60-65, 68, 80, 112, 128, 140, 141, 143, 144, 148, 196-198, 203, 214-216.
    51 Auto-bop: 5-8, 18-22, 25, 26, 30-32, 34-36, 69, 78-84, 87-101, One line 109-125, five lines 127-145, 155, 156, 166, 167, One line 170-182, 187-190, nine lines 213-229, eight lines 234-252.
    52 The Search For Alpha Trion: 27, 31,40, 84-88, 91, four lines 100-117, four lines 119-148, 152-159, seven lines 171-199, four lines 208-227, 252.
    53 The Girl Who Loved Powerglide: 6-8, 36, 43, 51, 90-93, 95-106, three lines 115-132, two lines 139-143, three lines 150-163.
    54 Hoist Goes Hollywood: 33-36, 41,123, three lines 125-162, 218, six lines 219-236.
    55 The Key To Vector Sigma, Part 1: 9-14, 44, 45, 57, 74, 101-106, 129-132, 134-140, 146-148, 161, 162, 177-179, 192-194, 210, 211, 215, 216, 239.
    56 The Key To Vector Sigma, Part 2: 1-14, 22-25, 30, 48, 49, 59, 61, 62, 71, 72, 86-92, 120-123, 173, 174, 177-179, 181-184, 189, 198-200, 210, 228, 245-249.
    57 Aerial Assault: 1*, 10*-12, 18, 51-54, 56, 57, 73, 77, 78, 98, 99, 112-138, 141-162, 184, 185, two lines 188-193, 228*.
    58 War Dawn: 5, 8, 16, 20-22, 25, 26, 29-31, 33, 37, 42-44, 47, 54, 57, 71-76, 78, 84, 90, 145, 147, 2 lines 149-162, seventeen lines 169-217, 230, five lines 220-244, four lines 246-277, 279, 280, six lines 291-310.
    59 Trans-Europe Express: 24, 26, 36, 40-48, 50-55, 73, 124, 132, 134-145, 155*, 157-159, 168, 202, 214, 253.
    60 Cosmic Rust: 2, 4, 12, 13, 15-17, 26, 36, 41, 42, 65, 70, 71, 89-93, 96-100, 101, 108-110, 121, 122, 149, 163*, 170, 204, 205, 220, 237.
    61 Starscream's Brigade: 30, 50, 58-61, 63, 64, 66, 72-76, 97, 127, 141, 144, 145, 153, 154, 158-159, 161, 171, 172, 175-179, 186-195, 205, 210-212, 227, 229.
    62 The Revenge Of Bruticus: 12,34, 36, 37, 57, 63, 74, 78, 79, 206.
    63 Masquerade: 11*, 31-33, 54, 74, 129, 137, 146, 158, 159, 178-183, 194-197, 206, 242-247, 249, 267.
    64 B.O.T: 14-18, 22, 39, 41, 51, 57, 62, 69, 74, 75, 82, 99, 100, six lines 105-112, five lines 116-122, four lines 124-138, three lines 146-164.


    86 Five Faces Of Darkness, Part 1: 1, 3-5, 7, 9, 10, 21-34, 44, four lines 57-63, 65, 70, 71, 73, 74, 85, five lines 111-121, three lines 131-140, three lines 147-156, 166-174, two lines 201-207, 221.
    87 Five Faces Of Darkness, Part 2: 9-18, 20, 27, 28, 35, 71, 119, five lines 132-148, eight lines 150-163, 179, 183, two lines 186-192, 204.
    88 Five Faces Of Darkness, Part 3: 4-6, 81, 103, 114, 115, two lines 120-138, 1 line 142-146, 163.
    89 Five Faces Of Darkness, Part 4: 13-22, 34, 35, 47, 48, 52-56, 64, 65, 71, 79-83, four lines 156-169, one line 171-179, one line 188-195, five lines 212-228.
    90 Five Faces Of Darkness, Part 5: 27, 78, 79, 82, 83, 96-98, 125, 127, 128, 164, 197, 211, 212.
    91 The Killing Jar: 32, 52, 87-89, 97, six lines 140-158, 160, two lines 242-248.
    92 Chaos: 4, 5, 15, 25, 29, 30, 57, 64, two lines 68-71, 76, 79, 105-107, 112, four lines 139-162, four lines 164-177.
    93 Dark Awakening: 9, 10, 38, 64, 89-94, 114, 146-155, 193, 201, 210, 211, 236, 252, 257, 258.
    94 Forever Is A Long Time Coming: 19-23, 32-34, 36, 42, 58-63, 91-93, 96, 99-104, two lines 175-188.
    95 Starscream's Ghost: No original script
    96 Thief In The Night: 1-9, 12, 13, 24-28, 35, 37, 38, 51-57. 74-84, 93, 94, nineteen lines 107-129, 133, ten lines 148-179, 196-203, two lines 205-212, ten lines 214-232, 239, 242.
    97 Surprise Party: 53-55, 72, 73, 100.
    98 Madman's Paradise: 22, 30, 31, 80, 83, 96, three lines 98-104, 115, 122, 137, 144, three lines 154-163, 190, six lines 199-207, 209, two lines 219-232, two lines 234-239, 241, 242, 246, 248, 249, 254, 256, 258, two lines 263-274.
    99 Nightmare Planet: 3, 12, 13, 15-18, 24, 36-44, 46, 50, 51, 60, 61, 82, 95, 101, three lines 111-115, six lines 120-140, two lines 143-149, five lines 151-157, 196, two lines 201-209.
    100 Ghost In The Machine: 56-58, 61, 62, three lines 119-130, seven lines 132-154, sixteen lines 181-217.
    101 Webworld: 3-5, 10, 11, 14, 15, 20, 22, 23, 25, 36, 39, 47-49, 61, 66, 68, 69, 71, 73, 74, 84-86, 90, two lines 163-175, 181-183, ten lines 214-223, two lines 225-246, three lines 251-258.
    102 Carnage In C-Minor: 65-68, 72, 74, 75, 78, 88, 94, 95, 103, 129, 132, 133, 142, thirteen lines 144-159, 168-171, 175, five lines 177-202, two lines 207-215, eight lines 223-237, 240.
    103 The Quintesson Journal: 8, 9, 24, 32, 57, 83, 84, 92.
    104 The Ultimate Weapon:
    105 The Big Broadcast of 2006:

    106 Fight Or Flee:
    107 Dweller In The Depths:
    8, 39, 50-59, 65, 73, 77, 78, 85, 89, 91-93, six lines 96-110, two lines 112-115, seven lines 118-140, 168, 172, 173, six lines 175-187, five lines 210-231, six lines 248-270.
    108 Only Human: 7, 13, 15, three lines 133-142, one lines 144-149, two lines 151-173, 206.
    110 Grimlock's New Brain
    111 Money Is Everything
    112 Call Of The Primitives
    113 The Face Of The Nijika
    114 The Burden Hardest To Bear
    115 The Return Of Optimus Prime, Part 1:
    37-39, 60-65, 94, 95, 105-108, 111, 113, 120, 138 -145, 158, 166-168, 178, 179, 182.
    116 The Return Of Optimus Prime, Part 2: 64-67, 102, 104, 107, 111, 128, 137, 145, 156, 172, 229.
     
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    Nice idea wonder how many of the audio cuts are in the tapes the moonbase guys got. Unfortunately i'm missing the dialog script for Fight or Flee but all the rest are available to read on the blog.
     
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    Added up to The Key To Vector Sigma. Probably will have finished season 2 by the weekend. One impression that this work has given me is: whether intentional or not, there seemed to be a neck-and-neck contest between Doug Booth and David Wise as to who could overload their scripts with more material.
     
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    Finished season 2, think I'm gonna go have a lie down now
     
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    I'm curious---what episodes are "most intact"? And is there any correlation between "amount of cuts" and "what the fandom general opinion of the quality of the episode is"? As in---do the cuts usually hurt and create plot-gaps, or are they actually tidying things up?

    I notice "B.O.T" has quite a few, but doesn't seem excessive compared to others. "Sea Change" looks to have a ton...
     
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    Dinobot Island part 2 has the plot point that the theft of the energy from the island is causing the fabric of time itself to fall apart. Prime realises that the battle is making it worse and orders the Autobots to lay down their weapons, something Megatron takes full advantage of.

    The Master Builders and Auto Berserk, the cuts are minor. Although we were gonna get a brief glimpse at Red Alert's POV where his vision is a red haze and Prime speaking to him is distorted.

    Microbots: Apart from reworking Prime and Megatron's dialogue in act 1 to keep some mystery about the Heart of Cybertron until it is revealed. The main change was to the fight with Megatron in Act 2, where he is blowing arms and legs off, and Ironhide shields his fellow Autobots from the blasts to the point where he is described afterwards as "looks like a piece of bread that was left in the toaster too long"

    Megatron's Master Plan was completely reworked. Someone was clearly unhappy with both Don Glut's script and Ron Friedman's usual massive revisions. They practically hacked that script back to the outline stage and started over. Part 2 under-ran so badly that a good chunk of it had to be inserted after the fact. This was the beginning of the end for Friedman on this show, as he would be blatantly ignored for the remaining scripts he worked on, in favour of the original writer's dialogue. The reason he didn't have any more scripts to sell off after Make Tracks, I suspect we might one day find is because he was quietly moved off the job.

    Desertion of the Dinobots again has fairly minor cuts. Main plot item lost is Carly realising that she has Bumblebee's paint under her nails, which as their paint is not supposed to come off that easily, foreshadows the forthcoming malfunctions.

    Blaster Blues: The first couple of cuts are of Omega Supreme's target practice, where he is firing "harmless" darts at Bumblebee and Cliffjumper, who are racing around in vehicle mode. Cliffjumper radios Bumblebee that he's going to try some kind of stunt, but Blaster's transmission means that Bee doesn't hear him and they crash into each other. This is where Megatron, who has been monitoring, gets the idea to scramble communications. Presumably this was cut as there wasn't enough in the episode to bring in Casey Kasem and Dan Gilvezan for the session.
    Other bits are Prime arriving to help Powerglide at the airport. When Prime has the upper hand in the fight, Megatron calls Astrotrain to help but Blaster is blocking their radio link. We also check in with Red Alert and Inferno when radio gets restored, to find them charred and damaged at the forest fire. Red calls in human firefighters to help, to which Inferno responds with the on-the-nose line of "You're calling for Earth fire fighters? What am I....a toy?".

    Decepticon Raider...: Not much plot lost, just heavy trimming of Douglas Booth's dialogue. Only thing you'd really need for the story is Sir Wigend and Sir Aetheling make peace with each other during the final battle (Ironic statement, I know).

    The Golden Lagoon: No unslugged script for comparison, but doesn't look like anything important was lost.

    The God Gambit: Cuts are mainly Astrotrain continuing to threaten the Titan natives with death and showing that this whole "God" thing has gone to his head.
    One note about this episode: Buzz Dixon has said that he specifically wrote Jazz in to both of his season 2 episodes to hang out with Scatman at the recording session all day. Sadly, by the time Carnage In C-Minor came around, Scatman was dying of cancer.

    Make Tracks: This is a weird one. Because they inserted the bit with Seaspray on the river, and Hoist and Huffer in traffic, into the script afterwards. But to make room, they cut a plot essential part where Raoul spots Mixmaster operating the computer console that controls the cars. Hence why he goes to destroy it at the end.

    The next 7 episodes have no unedited script to compare against. One note I'll make is that Triple Takeover has a massive 38 line cut between Megatron and Starscream falling into the trap, and cutting over to the football stadium as Blitzwing smashes his way in. That one has me intrigued.

    That's enough for this post, I'll continue the rest of it later.
     
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    Did you have all that prepared already? That's one heck of a reply! I was just expecting a sentence or two. :) 
     
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    Most of the actual story stuff I've known for a while. Going through the material again for this project just served as a reminder.
     
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    Added the first part of season 3. One change I have been able to verify, thanks to a photo of Neil Ross' personal copy of FFOD part 1 before it was auctioned. Originally the episode would open with the Insecticons in a fight with Menasor. Flint Dille must have realised very late in the day that the Insecticons shouldn't exist anymore, so the parts with the Constructicons are tacked on to the beginning. It could have even been improvised during the session.

    Retro Con 2015: Sept 12th & 13th Oaks, PA

    Also note the date: March 10th, 1986. They had 30 episodes on order to start airing in September and they were only going into the first dialogue session in March? Explains why the animation is so bad. Also leads me to the theory that when the last of season 2 was sent off to Toei in Autumn '85, that was the end of the full-time series and FFOD was going to be just a stand-alone mini for '86. That it was only the mega-sales of '85 that convinced Hasbro to fund more.
     
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    Finished off a good chunk of season 3 and the finish line is in sight. The Ultimate Weapon and Big Broadcast of 2006 are going to require more work as sections of those episodes are massively out or order. As Fight Or Flee has the full script and no dialogue script, I'll have to go through and number it in the same way the Sunbow story editors did.

    While I was going through it, I noticed that the full script for Return Of Optimus Prime, part 2 is missing 7 pages. Thankfully, the dialogue script shows only a cut of four lines before going over to Chaar to resume the broadcast episode.
     
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    Thanks for posting the link. Do you (or anyone else) know if there was a large chunk cut out of the Secret of Omega Supreme episode?

    At the start of Act III Omega Supreme is face to face with the Constructicons ready to fight near the asteroid / egg (creature lives, you die lie). But the next minute they are fighting on earth.

    How does that happen?
     
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    Just looked again. There are 2 four-line cuts around that section, so that probably covers it.
     
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    Do you have the missing lines (or just know that there are 2 four-line cuts)?
     

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