Let the Combiner Debate Begin (Which would you choose?)

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  1. OptimusSolo

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    I was reading the post about who would win in a fight between the Predacons and the Dinbots and I decided to crunch some numbers.

    Now, I know that numbers arent everything and that this completely ignores any altercations that these teams had in the cartoon or comic etc. But for the sake of this thread let us just consider only the numbers on the toy tech specs for each of the factions.

    In this first post I will simply consider the individual components of the factions. In the second post I will consider only the combined characters.

    All I did was add up the numbers for each member of the faction and than take an average. So my question for everyone is - which team would you want in a battle if you could only choose 1 (would you go with the strongest, the smartest, the best overall etc.) and my second question is what is the dream showdown between any two of these factions?? Lets have fun with this....

    Strength

    Dinobots 8.6
    Constructicons 8
    Terrorcons 7.6
    Predacons 7.6
    Seacons 7.5
    Seekers 7.33
    Stunticons 6.8
    Technobots 6.6
    Protectobots 5.8
    Insecticons 5.67
    Aerialbots 5.6
    Combaticons 5.4

    Intelligence

    Protectobots 8
    Insecticons 7.67
    Combaticons 7.2
    Aerialbots 7.2
    Technobots 6.6
    Seekers 6.5
    Stunticons 6.4
    Predacons 6.2
    Seacons 6.17
    Constructicons 5.5
    Dinobots 5.2
    Terrorcons 5

    Speed

    Seekers 9
    Aerialbots 8.6
    Stunticons 6.6
    Combaticons 5.6
    Technobots 5.4
    Protectobots 5.2
    Predacons 4.4
    Seacons 4.17
    Insecticons 4
    Dinobots 3.8
    Terrorcons 3.4
    Constructicons 2.83

    Endurance

    Terrorcons 9.4
    Dinobots 9.4
    Predacons 7.4
    Constructicons 7.33
    Technobots 7.2
    Seekers 7
    Seacons 7
    Protectobots 6.6
    Stunticons 6.4
    Aerialbots 6.2
    Combaticons 6
    Insecticons 5.33

    Courage

    Stunticons 8.4
    Technobots 8.4
    Protectobots 8.4
    Aerialbots 8.4
    Terrorcons 8.2
    Predacons 8.2
    Dinobots 8.2
    Seacons 7.17
    Constructicons 7
    Seekers 6.83
    Combaticons 6.8
    Insecticons 5.67

    Firepower

    Combaticons 7.8
    Predacons 7.8
    Aerialbots 7.8
    Seekers 7.5
    Terrorcons 7.2
    Technobots 7.2
    Seacons 6.67
    Protectobots 6.6
    Stunticons 6.4
    Insecticons 6.33
    Constructicons 5.67
    Dinobots 5

    Skill

    Combaticons 8.8
    Insecticons 8.7
    Constructicons 7.5
    Protectobots 7.4
    Seekers 7.3
    Aerialbots 6.8
    Seacons 6.7
    Dinobots 6.6
    Predacons 6.4
    Technobots 6.4
    Terrorcons 6.2
    Stunticons 5.8


    Overall

    Seekers 7.36
    Aerialbots 7.23
    Predacons 6.86
    Protectobots 6.86
    Technobots 6.83
    Combaticons 6.8
    Terrorcons 6.71
    Stunticons 6.69
    Dinobots 6.69
    Seacons 6.48
    Constructicons 6.26
    Insecticons 6.19
     
  2. OptimusSolo

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    Post #2

    Strength

    Superion 10
    Defensor 10
    Predaking 10
    Menasor 10
    Bruticus 10
    Abominus 10
    Devastator 10
    Computron 9
    Piranancon 9
    Dinobots 8.6
    Seekers 7.33
    Insecticons 5.67

    Intelligence

    Computron 10
    Insecticons 7.67
    Defensor 7
    Piranancon 7
    Seekers 6.5
    Dinobots 5.2
    Predaking 5
    Superion 3
    Menasor 3
    Bruticus 3
    Devastator 2
    Abominus 1

    Speed

    Seekers 9
    Superion 8
    Piranancon 4
    Insecticons 4
    Dinobots 3.8
    Predaking 3
    Abominus 3
    Computron 2
    Defensor 2
    Menasor 2
    Bruticus 1
    Devastator 1

    Endurance

    Superion 10
    Abominus 10
    Dinobots 9.4
    Defensor 9
    Menasor 9
    Bruticus 9
    Devastator 9
    Computron 8
    Predaking 8
    Seekers 7
    Piranancon 6
    Insecticons 5.33

    Courage

    Superion 10
    Computron 10
    Defensor 10
    Bruticus 10
    Abominus 10
    Devastator 10
    Predaking 9
    Piranancon 9
    Menasor 9
    Dinobots 8.2
    Seekers 6.83
    Insecticons 5.67

    Firepower

    Piranancon 10
    Predaking 9
    Menasor 9
    Superion 8
    Defensor 8
    Bruticus 8
    Abominus 8
    Devastator 8
    Seekers 7.5
    Computron 7
    Insecticons 6.33
    Dinobots 5

    Skill

    Computron 9
    Insecticons 8.7
    Defensor 8
    Predaking 8
    Seekers 7.3
    Superion 7
    Dinobots 6.6
    Piranancon 6
    Menasor 6
    Bruticus 6
    Abominus 4
    Devastator 4

    Overall

    Superion 8
    Computron 7.86
    Defensor 7.71
    Predaking 7.43
    Seekers 7.36
    Piranancon 7.29
    Menasor 6.86
    Bruticus 6.71
    Dinobots 6.69
    Abominus 6.57
    Devastator 6.29
    Insecticons 6.19
     
  3. OptimusSolo

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    I realize most people would disagree but according to the tech spec numbers only - The Predacons would have better overall numbers no matter if they were taken seperately or as Predaking over the dinobots!! say it aint so!!!!!!
     
  4. OptimusSolo

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    I think if I had to choose any team to be on my side it would be the Technobots/Computron.

    And if I could see a showdown it would be the Technobots/Computron against the Predacons/Predaking
     
  5. Kristof

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    I would have to still go with the Dinobots, they may not be the sharpest tools in the shed, but they usually find a way to get the job done.
     
  6. Nemesis Predaking

    Nemesis Predaking Offical Enforcer WTF@TFW Veteran

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    Preadaking Hands down. Not only do they look Sweet combined, who would really want to talk them on ???
     
  7. Boo

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    Predacons, definitely. As much as I like the Dinobots, I always thought they were overrated.

    One thing, though..... since when are the Dinobots "combiners" huh?
     
  8. OptimusSolo

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    My bad

    I thought i used the word faction not combiners in the first part of my post. I simply put the Seekers, Insecticons, and Dinobots in for fun. Obviously I know they arent combiners. But thanks for pointing out the obvious John Madden hehe -

    So no one would take the Aerialbots even though number wise they come out on top?
     
  9. Grimlock_13

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    I'd still go for the Dinobots. I'd rather have someone too dumb to realize they're getting hurt on my side;) 
     
  10. Voiceroy

    Voiceroy Trans-fo-mahs!

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    Or the Seekers? Or the Insecticons? :eek: 
     
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    interesting experiment. The numbers say it all. Computron really ranked well, while Abominus generally ranked low. Funny considering that Computron was made to defeat Abominus...seems like anyone could have. Well, Dinobots are at least a fan favorite. Considering that Grimlock made the Technobots, the Dinos should get extra points ;) 
     
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    Interesting post but I would love to see Omega Supreme taking on Predaking and my money would be on the Autobot!

    As for the Predacons having better stats than the Dinos separately, I would say that the Dino's intelligence and lack of speed really brought them down but my take? The Dinos would take the Preds one-on-one due to theor strength and endurance. If I remembered correctly in "Call of the Primitatives", the Dinos were controlling the fight with the Preds - even though it was a brief fight.
     
  13. jorod74

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    Omega Supreme...Sigh.

    He was underused, underrated, and abused. But darn, he could dish out some pain.
    he is slow and uses energon worse than a leaky lamborghini...Who cares? His hands alone are bigger than the Statue of Liberty!

    i digress.

    I'd like to see Devastator take on anybody except Computron.
     
  14. OptimusSolo

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    Again

    Well, you didnt read my post up two from your post - I ONLY INCLUDED THE SEEKERS INSECTICONS AND DINOBOTS FOR FUN. I am sorry if you think i was counting them as combiners!!!

    Thanks for the replies all i was hoping even more would get in on this discussion but o well. I love doing the stats either way !!!
     
  15. Prime-A-Cron

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    i was thinking the same thing, but i have seen customs

    i vote for Devestatior
     
  16. GogDog

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    I'm old school, I guess. No one inspired more fear than Devastator. I want him on my side.
     
  17. Chaos Muffin

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    I would say Predaking, but everytime he falls down he splits up and they all run off

    Devastator has been knocked through walls and it does'nt even phase him.
    Plus some construction vehicles would flatten some mammals

    Dev's also more nostalgic too me more than others, and I love all 6 of those little bastards.
     
  18. cybertron2006

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    Insecticons=Insectigod
    Dinobots=Dinoking
    Seekers=Skymaster
     
  19. Blunticon

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    Yeah I dont agree with this very much, the Dinobots would be classed much higher in most aspects.
     
  20. JinraiPrime

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    Oops need a revision now that ive thought about it as impressive as Preds is hes pretty well easily defeated in each encounter.... but hes SUPPOSED to be as badass as you would expect with superior tracking skills making him almost impossible to avoid.
     

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