KO/counterfeit G1 Optimus Prime Boxes

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  1. mattbot

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    Alright here's a curly question for all of you TF experts out there. There is a guide to buying G1 Optimus Prime toys on eBay that claims that G1 original OP boxes should always have BLACK lettering on the back at the bottom where it says;

    (c) 1984 Hasbro Bradley Inc etc

    or

    (c) 1984 Hasbro Industries Inc etc


    Here is the link to the guide;

    http://reviews.ebay.com/How-to-spot-a-KO-G1-Optimus-Prime_W0QQugidZ10000000002127051

    I am wondering what truth there is to this and whether anyone can shed any light on this. I would say that 99% of the OP's I have seen on eBay claiming to be originals have WHITE printing.

    If this is true, that the printing is supposed to be BLACK, then it would suggest that 99% of the OP's on eBay are KO/counterfeit.

    Please Help!:confused: 

    Cher

    Matt.
     
  2. aussiehippy

    aussiehippy Au contraire, Blackadder.

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    Ebay:
    Based on the numerous threads about KO primes in the TF on Ebay forum, I'd take a guess that a huge percentage of MISB Primes on Ebay at the moment probably are KOs.

    I certainly wouldn't be buying a MISB Prime from ebay right now.
     
  3. e3nine

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    "A knock off will have the top trim missing. The cardboard trim should connect all around the front of the box around the clear plastic guard."

    Absolutely not. This is a sign of a KO. A real G1 WILL NOT have a grey border around the window.
     
  4. e3nine

    e3nine Poop.

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    That review is completely off. I'm almost sure this is a counter fitter trying to pass his goods as real. Anyways ...

    fake - not all stickers are applied (missing silver cab stripe)
    fake - the grey border extends around the entire window
    fake - factory crease running along the top flap
    fake - "Made In France". The only Prime carrying that tag has red feet.
    real - the grey border does not run around the entire window.

    also note the positioning on the "FORMERS" on both flaps.



    (edit: new pictures towards the bottom)
     
  5. Parsox

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    nice guide

    thanks for posting it
     
  6. e3nine

    e3nine Poop.

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    talkin to me or him? :p 


    the original one posted will make you purchase a fake thinking it's real.




    I'm sick of all of this. I'm making a guide now, including pretty pictures, and will publish it to eBay.
     
  7. mattbot

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    That sounds like a great idea! I have been trying to write one for the past six weeks since I decided I'd like to start collecting TF's. Before I started buying I thought I'd try researching it a bit. The problem is there are so many versions of the truth that I keep having to rethink what I am doing.
     
  8. e3nine

    e3nine Poop.

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    before I go posting on eBay ... I'd like the blessing of TFW.

    Let me know if I blew something. Thaaaaaaanks.


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    this is the one I can't 100% confirm.
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  9. Master Megatron

    Master Megatron Action Bastard

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    Also, the ko's grid becomes black halfway up, while the official's becomes black a third of the way up.
     
  10. Mike

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    Ebay:


    I just want to say this is probably the BEST post I have ever read on this site :) 
     
  11. e3nine

    e3nine Poop.

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    :) 

    2 more ...

    credit to Master Megatron for this ..
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    and another one I remembered ..
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  12. Mike

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    that really is great work Master Megatron and e3nine

    do you think you guys can do up pictures like that for swoop and the others?
     
  13. KA

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    instead of ticks and crosses, that pictorial totally needs some sort of TF KO expert mascot.
     
  14. e3nine

    e3nine Poop.

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    I haven't studied the Swoop as much as the Prime. I'd be happy to with some direction.
     
  15. e3nine

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    hahahaha ... It'd have to be something totally fake looking.


    "Dumblebee, the TF that never could"
     
  16. The Asp

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    Nah, more like Crumblebee.

    "Transforms from robot to pile of broken plastic, But NOT back again."
     
  17. Octane

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    Does this mean the fake flap is smaller in height?
     
  18. e3nine

    e3nine Poop.

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    not at all, but the KO'ers re-engineered the box's back. The box's dimensions are correct, but the scanned in image is zoomed a bit.
     
  19. Parsox

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    Talking to you e3nine in previous post


    but thanks again to both of you for the education on this subject

    parsons
     
  20. Valkysas

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    roller's hose-thing's 3 pieces are glued together on all KOs as well.
     

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