1. UltraPrimus56

    UltraPrimus56 In the ruins of paradise

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    Is he one of Megatron's lieutenants, or is he just the "doctor" even though he does a shitty job at that lol.
     
  2. Prime Jetscream

    Prime Jetscream The Ultimate Golden Gamer

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    Um. Let me get back to you on that.
     
  3. Stardust262

    Stardust262 Moe is the Only Way

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    I don't know what his "official" rank is, but he serves as the ship's Medic/Scientist
     
  4. seekerblackout

    seekerblackout Banned

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    He's certainly higher up than Vehicons, but he's below Dreadwing and Soundwave.

    I just now realized how puny the Decepticon cast has gotten.
     
  5. Molina00

    Molina00 Well-Known Member

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    I hasn't really changed a whole lot. Starscream left, Airachnid joined. Breakdown died and was replaced by Dreadwing. Airachnid left and Hardshell was introduced. Unless I am forgetting someone, they are still breaking even.

    Don't know for sure about the OP's question. KO is obviously the doctor, and higher ranking than most since Megatron trusted him to get one of the relics. I use trusted in a very loose sense. I can't imagine him trusting anybody except maybe Soundwave.
     
  6. seekerblackout

    seekerblackout Banned

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    But that's still three losses. And I wouldn't call Hardshell a main cast member yet, we don't know how often he's going to show up.
     
  7. Bashaa

    Bashaa Well-Known Member

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    I think it comes down to what his relationship to Megatron was during the War.
     
  8. Molina00

    Molina00 Well-Known Member

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    Breakdown wasn't exactly in every episode either, he just showed up once in a while. I expect Hardshell to be a similar situation. The Cons are still breaking even (not getting smaller), as are the Bots since they haven't gained or lost anybody.
     
  9. seekerblackout

    seekerblackout Banned

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    Breakdown appeared all the time in Season 1, at least in the background.

    Now he only showed up about three times in Season two.
     
  10. Chopperface

    Chopperface Holtzmanned

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    In several episodes, notably Orion Pax Part 1 and One Shall Fall, Knock Out seemed to be of equal standing as the "official" 2IC Airachnid. However, in the latter scenario, Megatron needed his science officer's word on the progress of the Space Bridge throughout the episode. And in Orion Pax, confiding in Knock Out rather than Airachnid, who had just tried to betray him, wouldn't be exactly out of the question.

    But no matter who is the second in command, be it Starscream, Knock Out, Airachnid, or Dreadwing, it seems that the true second in command is Soundwave. All other 2IC's are the active field commander type. Soundwave is the only one eternally loyal to Megatron and a full Decepticon (unlike the decent man Dreadwing really is).
     
  11. twiztidRodimus

    twiztidRodimus Shattered Glass Autobot

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    I like to think is rank is...''Awesome''
     
  12. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Fixed.....because its true. :p 
     
  13. crazyjeffy

    crazyjeffy Hammertastic

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    I'm with Autovolt on this one, but I believe the ranks go:

    Megatron
    Soundwave
    Dreadwing
    Knock Out
    Breakdown (even after he died)
    Vehicon #756
    Vehicon #887
    Vehicon #452
    Vehicon #323
    Vehicon #142
    Vehicon #987
    Vehicon #432
    Vehicon #867
    Vehicon #436
    Vehicon #998
    Starscream (even though he's rogue)
    Zombie Cliffjumper
    Airachnid
     
  14. MTME

    MTME Well-Known Member

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    Isn't Hardshell dead? He got off that one last missle and then died back into the lava?
     
  15. TylerMirage

    TylerMirage I vawnt my berdt.

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    ^He's still alive. He gets out of the lava, fires his missile and then the rest of the scene is about Bulkhead. Hardshell doesn't fall back into the lava or collapse or anything.

    For reference, Breakdown is "present" for 24 episodes. That means that there were 24 episodes between the time we first see him in Dues Ex Machina and the time when he bites it in Crossfire. Of those 24 episodes, he physically appears in 14 of them. And of those 14 episodes he physically appears in, he speaks for 10 of them.

    RECAP:
    Around for 24 episodes,
    Appears in 14 of those,
    Speaks in 10 of those.

    I know that may seem like he's barely around, but consider that many characters in A:EMH would probably offer up similar numbers, especially in the second season.
     
  16. Surge

    Surge Village Dolt

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    He's the doc and a lackey who gets pushed around.
     
  17. ISleepNow

    ISleepNow Detrimental Robot

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    dont you mean "FABulous"?
     
  18. soundwave142

    soundwave142 Decepticon over-seer

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    seekerblackout Banned

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    He didn't fall back in. And if he survived the first fall, why wouldn't he survive a second?
     
  20. DepthWave

    DepthWave Decepticon Storm Trooper.

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    I think, there should be ranks "Traitor", "Megatron's punching bag", "I am available whenever you want" or "Never fails". "Indifferent"...

    As for the thread, Megatron called KnockOut a "scientist". This is, probably, the "rank".
     

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