Knock Out/Breakdown

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  1. ServO

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    Forgive me, but I've been searching for about a half-hour and can't really find anything solid...
    Does anyone think it's wierd that the sleek sports car is called Knock Out, and the big lug with the hammer is called Breakdown?
    I would think it the other way around...Cars break down, and big huge guys with hammers knock stuff out...
    Don't get me wrong...they are a couple of my favorite characters from the series, but I always catch my self wanting to flip the names around...anyone else?
     
  2. Moonlight1102

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    No. Knock Out is such a fitting and fabulous name for, well, Knock Out.
     
  3. ServO

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    I can see where Knock Out could allude to his stunning good looks I suppose...
    No biggie...just something that was I was kicking around in my head.
     
  4. Mewtwo

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    Yeah it should be obvious KnockOut's name is not implied by the term "To knock someone out" in the physical sense. But is more of the "Such a Knockout" in the "Attractive" sense.
     
  5. DepthWave

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    My dictionary has different meanings for "Knock out".
    The last is "put to sleep" and "stupefy, befuddle, intoxicate". It, probably, attributes to his "doctor" rank.
    But I still haven't seen any proofs.
    Might be "lull the vigilance" meaning? Regarding his treatment about Meratron, for example.
     
  6. DepthWave

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    And the meaning "make someone out of action" could be about his weapon, wich he used on Prime.
     
  7. Sol Fury

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    hmm, good point actually! When you look back at past Knockouts, you get a Micromaster construction vehicle, a couple of military type trucks, and more recently a pair of motorcycles. But the name certainly lends itself to a more burly statured guy than a name usually attributed to a sports car.

    Ultimately, I don't mind, since Prime Knock Out has become the first one I think of when someone says "Knock Out" to me.

    A counterpoint to your argument though, for why Breakdown is a fitting name - he's a big guy who smashes his opponents with a hammer to break them down.
     
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    Knock Out is oily slick, he deserves the name. Breakdown breaks things. Neat thoughts though.
     
  9. ServO

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    Yup...it's the previous uses of the name that is getting me hung up...the past examples of the name uses...as you pointed out with Knock Out, the same seems to be true with Breakdown in that it is generally assosciated with a sports car.

    Also, what DepthWave was saying..."stupefy, befuddle, intoxicate"...that makes perfect sense for Knock Out's character.

    Good stuff you guys...thanks!
     
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    Actually my Friend Blair told me this.

    Breakdown works since every other Breakdown has been a car and Knockout and a Hammer.....makes sense,

    Considering how both were going to be Lugnut at one point, it's possible they mixed the names up and just never bothered to correct it.
     
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    In my experience, dictionaries rarely mention slang terms. In this case, the slang term "knockout" refers to an attractive person.
     
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    Exactly. Besides, his name was changed from Lugnut before his and Breakdown's debut episode aired- it wasn't "sexy enough" (no, I'm not making that up). So they probably meant it in the "attractive person" sense.
     
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    Knock Out simply knocks you out with his lightning rod. Breakdown breaks you down. Being literally broken down is worse than just being knocked out.
     
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    Wrong. Knockout knocks you out with his looks. Breakdown gets broken down by spiders.
     
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    Yeah, I had this exact same thought. The names should be flipped between the two characters.
     
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    For Prime, I believed they chose Knock Out for this character because he's the Cons excuse for a medical officer..he has to knock you out to perform arm replacements, etc. and he was called in for his medical expertise in the beginning by Starscream for a Megatron in stasis.

    Breakdown, iirc, kinda explained his own name and function..he will break you down...with his hammer or fists or blaster. He's also physically a big brusier, so being broken down by him wouldn't be unusual.
     
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    This dictionary does, but I didn't see the "sexual" meaning there...

    Megatron:"KnockOut, come here".
    Megatron:"Hey, handsome, come closer".

    No way.
     
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    It's not sexual, it's vanity. Knockout is a very, very, very vain person.
     
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    I like how Breakdown's death was actualy a double fucking pun. He was BROKE DOWN then the Mech dude shows up and goes hehehe look we found familiar FACES bcuz his head is right here heeheeeee
     
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    According to your suggestion, if I call him "KnockOut", would it be the same, if I called him "striking beauty" or sort of "fop"? Or do you mean, that both statement are required, at the same time?
    And the last I come with is, does this "attractive" mean the appearance or the "sweet temper"?
     

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