This is kinda the reverse of the current BW thread (but is a similar positive way). I've seen BW long ago, loved it, but hadn't seen part two of Armada until this past week. And I have to say I really like it! But it took me a long time to get to that point. My Armada experience: When Armada first debuted, I gave it a chance like anyone else. Several things really ruined the series for me though - those stupid kids (Fred and Billy were the worst), the mini-cons not being able to talk and have individual personalities, the Decepticons being so stupid, and episodes like "now we shall have an environmental message in the middle of a war." I hated Armada and came to view it as the worst TF series ever (cept maybe masterforce). I decided to give Armada another chance when the DVDs came out and got pt. 1. I heard about a couple of arcs where the show got a bit better, Starcream's betrayal and the Unicron Battles, but those eps weren't on the DVD and I didn't make it past ep. 15 the show was so bad. I watched ep 25 just to see if things got better or if the Starscream arc had finally started yet, it hadn't. I sold my set. And concluded that Armada really was the worst TF show ever. I did get the DW comics of Armada around this time though and thought, if only the cartoon were like that! (I'd been enjoying watching Energon as well, little did I know how bad it would get but it was currently in the middle part where things were good for a while). Fast Forward more. I met the Dobson Brothers at BotCon, they are really talent guys. I thought should I try watching Armada again for they're performances? But the show sucked so much! But I wanted to see that Starscream episode! One or two episodes did not justify buying a whole boxset of a crappy show though. Now catch up to a few weeks ago. I find Armada pt. 2 used DVD set on sale for $21 while on vacation in a comcis store. I debate, but ultimate say what the hey, it's only $21 and I can at least see that Starscream episode and the one where they defeat Unicron. So I bought it. For the first few eps I'm thinking huge mistake, but then something happened around the two parter where Wheeljack shows up, it stopped being about the stupid kids and about the Transformers for once. Hot Shot was my favorite Autobot from Armada (if you could even say I had a favorite, but he's basicaaly this continuities version of Hot Rod, who I love). And from there the show just kept getting better and better. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop, but it never did. Starscream's betrayal arc was more that just one or two eps like I thought, Op had one of his better deaths, Hot Shot stepped into a leadership position, we finally saw Cybertron, Unicron came, Starcream sacificed himself, Op & Megs joined forces, Uncron was defeated and just as soon as that happened Op and Megs engage in one of their best fights since the original movie. I LOVED THE UNICRON BATTLES! Even the kids didn't seem as annoying as they once were somehow. And I can't believe it took me this long to enjoy Armada, but now I do. But it sure wasn't easy to get to this point. Heck, it took me two tries to get into BW back when it first aired and only when I found out it was a sequel and not a reboot did I really try to accept it. We TF fans have had so many reboots and reason to hate new shows as they came out, but ultimately they deserve a second chance and sometimes even a third or fourth. You may not always change your mind, but then again you might or discover a good part of the show you never knew existed. So that's my Armada story that I thought I'd share. That's why I also intend to watch TF Animated from beginning to end, probably no matter what.