Jetfire's Macross Equal

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Necare, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. Necare

    Necare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Posts:
    519
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    So I am working on an epic where Jetfire helps the humans build up their technology to fight the decepticons.

    For the project I want to pick up a few Valkyries from the Macross or Robotech lines. I know little about the cartoon and less about the what seems to be endless lines and companies that come out with versions.

    Could someone tell me which model Valkyrie was the inspiration for Jetfire?

    I believe it was the VF-1S?

    Also I don't want to get a crap toy so could someone suggest a version? It appears that the one to get is made by Yamato at 1/60 scale.

    Does Gundam make a transformable Valkyrie model?

    Thanks any help would be appreciated!
     
  2. lars573

    lars573 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2007
    Posts:
    6,841
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +26
    Bandai you mean, Gundam is another Bandai property. Your asking the equivalent of "does GI-Joe make anymore transformers?" Answer: yes they do. They even reissue the original mold for Jetfire all the time. I believe it is the 1/55 VH-1S Valkyrie (Roy Focker version), HLJ listing for the reissue. Now there are several other versions, same body different heads. The Hikaru Ichijo (Rick Hunter) version,a VH-1A Super Valkyrie. And the Max Genius version of the VH-1A. These however are just straight reissues of the old toys. They are $120 shipped a pop. And you'd have to repaint Roy's Valkyrie to look like Jetfire and take the "strike parts" off of Max's or Hikaru's VH-1A and paint them for Jetfrie's gear.

    And there is much more expensive toys from Yamato in 1/48th scale. And there are much smaller and cheaper model kits from Bandai that may or may not transform. Just go to HobbyLink Japan Home Page and search Macross and decide for yourself.
     
  3. Optimist_Prime

    Optimist_Prime The Original Optimist!

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2007
    Posts:
    4,099
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    172
    Likes:
    +6
    Ebay:
    Gundam and Robotech are two totally different things, and you are correct it is the VF-1S.

    Now you have some options...

    Yamoto makes a 1/60th 1S and a Super 1S (with Strike Parts). For Yamoto I'd suggest get the 1/60th Hikaru Ichijo VF-1s as much of it is already red, and buy the strike parts seprately because the ones that come packaged with them are known to be of lesser quality.

    I'm pretty sure Bandai still makes a 1/55 VF-1S, but I can only find it in Roy Fokker's colors (yellow). I also am not sure if they make strike parts or not.

    Toynami makes a 1/100 VF-1S and sells strike parts seperately. Unfortunately the Hikaru Ichijo 1S was, I believe, a convention exclusive and can be tricky to get these days. You'd have to go w/ Roy Fokker's 1S which is yello
     
  4. Necare

    Necare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Posts:
    519
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    Right...I did NOT mean Gundam. Thanks so far...I am not so concerned with making the fighter red and white. It doesn't have to be the same color scheme as jetfire is but similar style is all.

    So you guys think Yamato's 1/60 versians are the best out there?
     
  5. nellie131

    nellie131 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2007
    Posts:
    4,787
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    187
    Likes:
    +52
    or you could use a 1/48 scale by yamoto and make him look like my masterpiece custom as attached :thumbs2: 
     

    Attached Files:

  6. Necare

    Necare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Posts:
    519
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    That does look nice! Though I've heard the 1/60's fixed some problems that were on the 1/48's. Also the price is cheaper and saving space is always an advantage!
     
  7. QuinJester

    QuinJester T. Bison

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2006
    Posts:
    8,118
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +5
    The second version VF-1S valkyries are more tightly designed than the 1/48, and for the most part more sturdy and easier to handle. They have issues with shoulders that break though, unfortunately.

    Still, they're pretty good. The 1/60 VF-1S Hikaru Ichijo is as close as you'll get to a Jetfire paintscheme.

    http://hlj.com/product/YMT00097 - without packs

    http://www.hlj.com/product/YMT00085 - with packs
     
  8. Necare

    Necare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Posts:
    519
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    It seems like the Bandai 1/55 origin of Valkyrie which shouldn't really be more than 40 or 50 bucks to get has inflated prices up to 100!

    Granted the VF-1S is the inspiration for the original Jetfire mold, but the 1/60 scale Yamato version is so much more detailed and you get so much more with the figure that I would presume the price difference to be much greater than it is.

    Interesting.
     
  9. Waverider

    Waverider Supreme Dude TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2009
    Posts:
    8,051
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Location:
    GTMO
    Likes:
    +26
    Ebay:
    If you want the original scale of the Jetfire figure it is the 1/55 Takatoku/Bandai. The VF-1A Super Valkyrie kit comes with the accessories like the original Jetfire . To get a G1 accurate figure, as previously posted you will need to swap heads from the VF-1s 1/55 figure, some paint and a little help from reprolabels.
     
  10. Mastodon

    Mastodon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2006
    Posts:
    223
    Trophy Points:
    91
    Likes:
    +0
    Waverider, how difficult is doing that headswap?
     
  11. Prometheum5

    Prometheum5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2004
    Posts:
    829
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    146
    Likes:
    +1
    The head on the 1/55 VF-1 swaps from the neck piece via a single screw if I remember right... if that's not it, it'll still be quite easy to do, as the 1/55's are exceptionally easy to work with.

    EDIT: Honestly, unless you are in love with the 1/55 old-school look or want the toy to fit in with your G1 figures, I'd recommend getting the Yamato 1/60v2 VF-1S Hikaru w/ Super/Strike armor as posted above... the new 1/60 is an amazing piece, with killer proportions, better transformation, and really good articulation, and will end up being a more fun toy. If you were gonna get a 1/55, you might as well just buy Jetfire for the extra money to not have to do any work on it.
     
  12. Necare

    Necare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Posts:
    519
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    that was going to be my last question. Just as a toy which would you choose the Yamato 1/60th or Bandai 1/55th.

    The prices don't seem to be that different though I thought Bandai's 1/55 would have been significantly cheaper. Bandai's landing gear mechanism seems better, but everything else including accessories, detail etc seems better with Yamato.

    Just not sure about durability. We know the Bandai version will last, though not sure about the Yamato.

    I think I am getting the VF-1S and VF-1A Yamato movie deco Rick Hunter colors.
     
  13. Waverider

    Waverider Supreme Dude TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2009
    Posts:
    8,051
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Location:
    GTMO
    Likes:
    +26
    Ebay:
    This vid does comparisons of the Bandai 1/55 and G1 Jetfire figure. He also have various Yamato and Tranformer vids.

    YouTube - Jetfire & OoV VF-1S (Quick Vid Comparision)
     
  14. Necare

    Necare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Posts:
    519
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    I must be totally out of my mind. I just ordered the VF-1S the 1A and 1J and 1 has super and strike parts the 1/60 yamato versions.

    I now have to find super parts for the 1A and 1J that don't cost over $50 a piece.

    Humans can go a month without food right?
     
  15. lars573

    lars573 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2007
    Posts:
    6,841
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +26
    Rule of 3. 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, and 3 weeks without food. So no. Find a soup kitchen.
     
  16. OMEGAPRIME1983

    OMEGAPRIME1983 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2005
    Posts:
    12,305
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Likes:
    +55
    Ebay:
    Just curious myself, but do the super parts that come with the 1/60 VS-1 have 2 solid covers to make it look like jetfires fastpack, or would I be stuck with the single shoulder cannon?
     
  17. Necare

    Necare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Posts:
    519
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    The super parts are simply the two jet engines.. Super and Strike parts come with two jet engine covers and one cannon that can be swapped out. or so the reviews say.
     
  18. QuinJester

    QuinJester T. Bison

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2006
    Posts:
    8,118
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +5
    Any of the releases that come with the strike cannon also come with regular missile pods (the solid fastpack cover), so no, you wouldn't be stuck with one shoulder cannon, no worries.
     

Share This Page