It's "Do No Harm," not, "Do Nothing."

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  1. jorod74

    jorod74 Psycholagnist (Ret.)

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    NYC victim's mom: EMTs were 'inhuman' not to help - Yahoo! News

    It's Christmas, folks. Goodwill towards men and all that....and we see this kind of nonsense?

    all i want for Christmas now is a hero that gives a damn.
     
  2. MetalRyde

    MetalRyde is an a-hole with a heart.

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    ah, humanity.
    can you sink any lower?
     
  3. Bryan

    Bryan ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    rargh
     
  4. Rodimal Magnus

    Rodimal Magnus A Touch of Destiny

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    Time to call in Frank Castle.
     
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    While this is truly a terrible situation, it there any evidence that these folks could have done anything to help the women if they stayed? Sure they look like terrible people, but if they stayed would have the outcome changed? Also, In the State of New York are you required by law to help an individual if they need help if you have the training, like a good Samaritans act? Maybe they were scared of getting sued if they helped and she still didn't make it...
     
  6. Bryan

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    Good Samaritan acts typically don't require you to help, but rather, they shield you from liability if you try to help and fail to do so, or even cause harm in the attempt. It varies as to whether or the law protects laypersons, trained providers, or both.

    Typically, however, providers are required to render care as part of their job. Their legal responsibility varies, and I'm not sure how it works in NY.
     
  7. Bryan

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    Just outta curiosity, what are you doing to make the world a better place?
     
  8. process

    process Hanlon's razor Veteran TFW2005 Supporter

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    Must have been really shitty coffee.
     
  9. Brawlastator

    Brawlastator it is our life - jon bovi

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    You know that Snickers commercial where the two guys are like "Dude where'd my hunger go." and it cuts to some really hungry german guy? I wonder if faith in humanity works like that? Like, someone in General Discussion loses their faith in humanity (again) and somewhere in the world there's this really optimistic guy with loads of faith in humanity?
     
  10. Bryan

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    :lol 

    Oh, lawdie, and then dude is like, "WHY AM I SO CHEERFUL???"
     
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    TheIncredibleHulk Find Gary Busey!

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  12. Sioce

    Sioce Radicon in training

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    In California, if an EMT is in uniform they have a duty to act.
    If not, they are free to walk away from any emergency. (Many do.)
    The Good Samaritan act protects you from liability as long as you are working within your scope of practice and are making a real attempt at helping.
    Depending on the woman's condition the EMTs may not have been able to do anything to help whatsoever.
    I don't think they should have left the scene though. If a situation is beyond your control as an EMT, you should extend comfort and care to the surrounding family. They should have stayed on scene and done what they could to help the woman until higher medical authority arrived.
    I'm not sure how it works in New York. But EMTs follow a national standard of care. I would imagine that the rules are the same across the country.
    If the EMTs are being suspended without pay, then thier agency has probably decided they acted wrongly.
     
  13. grimlock1972

    grimlock1972 "No Mas" My Wallet

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    I have been following the story and those 2 should be fired and possibily prosecuted as they are clearly responsible for the loss of 2 lives for failing to act , New York city is wide open to a law suit in which they have no defense as what those emts did or rather did not so is indefensible
     
  14. Sage o' G-fruit

    Sage o' G-fruit Critics gonna critique

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  15. megatronski

    megatronski PURGE THE HERETIC

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    wow. this planet is turning to crud. so much hate and immorality,our rescources being constantly drained, and so many rumors of war. Wow. this planet is going down just like cybertron when you think about it.

    those two people need the life sentence.
     
  16. Gordon_4

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    I think the word you're looking for is immorality, if there was enough immortality going around they'd be in far less trouble.
     
  17. firehawc_69

    firehawc_69 cloppers = ignore list

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    I call shenanigans. Either that or there's part of the story we aren't getting.
     
  18. Kando

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    My brain almost exploded from reading this post.
     
  19. prime13

    prime13 UCHUU KITAAAA

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    Someone call Chuck norris, Some poeople need their asses kicked bad.
     
  20. AutobotSkids

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    :lolol 

    But man...That's horrible to hear...Denying someone help when they really need it, like what the emts did to this woman, well, it's just flat out unethical IMO.
     

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