Do you guys think that Transformers is just another part of a Hollywood trend? Think of the original Batman series that came out in the 90s. The first one was good but then the series got exponentially worse and ended up with nipples on Batman. Transformers is going along that same route. Because of the huge amount of money it made - the audience basically told the producers they want more of the same. More robo testicles. More toilet humor. The audience liked the movie even though it lacked a coherent plot, IMO. I thought the first one had a very bad plot, but the 2nd movie had a worse plot I thought. Thus, the live action movie Transformers franchise will never be anything more than a summer popcorn flick. Not that there is anything wrong with popcorn flicks, but for those of us expecting anything more than that will not find it with this franchise. However, Hollywood for the SECOND time it made Batman, couldn't rely upon the old draws to the theatres. They couldn't give a super hero anymore and expect that to draw crowds like it did in the 90s. Superhero movies were rare then but are almost common now. Having another superhero movie would not move ticket sales - as the first Incredible Hulk movie showed. Thus, Batman Begins was EXTREMELY plot heavy. It had the characterization and dialogue that made it a good MOVIE, not just a popcorn flick. The plot for the 2nd Incredible Hulk movie was also much much better along with the acting and characterization. So, the question then is, after the 3rd film (or even for the 3rd film), do you see these same special effects and toilet humor selling tickets as well if/when Hollywood ever decides to use the TF franchise to make a movie? The special effects will no longer be ground breaking. Do you think this will make Hollywood provide substance to TF's style?