Is Bumblebee the weakest Autobot ,even weaker than Rewind,Eject and Arcee?

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  1. galvatron1976

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    Hello ,is Bumble actually the weakest Autobot and Transformers in G1 ,is he even more weaker than Eject and Rewind who are smaller sized than him i think and the even female Autobot Arcee ,Elita One etc are stronger than him ?
    Can he actually can fight ?

    Thanks.
     
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    Eject, Arcee, and Elite One aren't weak
     
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    Eject, rewind and arcee would all own bumblebee evreyone owns bumblebee (which seems to be what hasbro wants making so many of them recentley)
     
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    I think physically he's weaker, but his strengths are his speed, intelligence, etc.
     
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    You lost any credibility when you included Elita One in there.

    Elita would pwn most Autobots.
     
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    You speak true words.
     
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    Well, if you've seen most G1 episodes, you'll know that he can actually fight, he does not lack courage.
     
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    Bumblebee's 'weakest of the autobots' byline was written when it was just the original 18 autobots, just as 'Brawn is the second strongest Autobot' was also in comparison to the original 18. Bee's stats are significantly different on his WFC bio and his ROTF bio. So it depends on which version you're going by. In the live action movies he's kind of a butt kicker (except in the first one where he gets his legs shot off... and when he gets frozen by army guys with fire extinguishers... on second thought, never mind.)
     
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    Agreed.....
    But because they are females DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE WEAK AT ALL!
    And Elita One is as strong as Prime to me.
     
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    Hound is the weakest. He just sucks
     
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    Well, Eject isn't a female. But most people probably don't even realize what kind of personality he has. If you read the GI Joe/Transformers crossover that features Unicron and Cobra-La, you will see that Eject is AWESOME.

    Rewind, on the other hand, is just a data archivist.
     
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    if you build an army only on muscles.. you will lose.. a warriors true strength is in his mind and heart. (paraphrase of many saying of ancient wisodom)
     
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    Within the first 3-4 years of Transformers G1, Bumblebee is the WEAKEST Autobot, but it's important to remember that with Transformers, size doesn't always have that much to do with Strength. Many of the strongest Autobots are Minibots, for example (Brawn, Gears, Huffer, Warpath, Pipes).

    According to the old Tech Specs, Bumblebee has Strength of 2, tied only with Cosmos. Among the Decepticons even, Rumble is the only one who has 2 Str. Even Frenzy is stronger than Rumble. Eject is pretty strong actually with 6. Rewind has 4.

    There are other weak TF, those with ratings of 3... Kickback, Venom, Blast Off, just to name a few.

    In G1, we never had numerical ratings for the female Autobots, but it's a sure bet that Arcee and Elita are definitely stronger than Bumblebee. Arcee never seemed to be any more or less than average, for example. Since gender is already questionable with Transformers, there's really no reason to think that "female" TFs would be any weaker than the norm.

    However, it's worth noting that Bayformers Bumblebee isn't really Bumblebee. He's a totally different character, so comparisons can't be drawn there. WFC Bumblebee is a tricky case, since he's clearly G1 Bumblebee, but his toy stats are written in an attempt merge him with Bayformers BB... which is highly suspect.

    Well, I wouldn't give her that much. Prime is REALLY strong, and Elita has never been depicted as particularly strong in any incarnation. No matrix either.

    Though by the G1 continuity, she was rebuilt by Alpha Trion at the same time as Prime, so I figure she must have some pretty impressive specs.

    Is that relevant? :) 

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    SMOG trying to hide his white hairs :D 
     
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    Scrounge... the only thing he has going for him, is his "special arm"... its special yah know...
     
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    Heh... 1976? He's just a BABY!! :D 

    zmog
     
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    I'm going to pull a Bill Clinton here and say that the OP needs to define "weakest."

    Yes, G1 Bumblebee is not among the list of most physically gifted. But that isn't his purpose within the Autobot ranks anyway. So it's a little undeserving to say he's weak, or as a common misconception would say- useless. He isn't, by any means.
     
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    Weak, as in physical strength, was my impression... though he does seem to equate that with fighting ability, which is not always valid.

    zmog
     

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