ok i had this thought a while ago and posted it on the allspark last night, so im gonna post it here and try to make it a little more coherent. my idea is that all the cartoons are supposed to be in one universe but because people dont get it, it has been officially made into seperate universes. the idea comes from the legend of zelda timeline where the timeline was written out of order ex. ocarina of time being made after links awakening but being before it chronologically. the timeline would be g1 cartoon (may or may not be able to fit the japanese ones) a very long time passes (enough time for human society to basically reset and get back to modern tech and also for the events leading to the unicron trilogy to take place ex. omega supremes defeat of unicron, optimus, rodimus and others taking the cyber planet keys etc.) unicron trilogy (i dont think any years were ever said in show just that each show was 10 years apart, if im wrong please correct me) 300yrs pass bw/bm here are some references within the shows and toylines that help my case -g1 has no definite end -g1 skyfire shows up in shadow in armada leaving cybertron a few eps before jetfire arrives on earth -the cybertron show itself has small refrences to g1 as do the toy bios which also reference bw -primus is not in the g1 cartoon but is in cybertron which would allow for bw to be just a cartoon continuity -300 yrs is a short time for the g1 guys to become legend to the bw guys, and even thousands of years is a stretch since transformers live for millions of years -cybertron would give an end to the great war whereas the g1 cartoon doesnt end -scrapmetals bio refrences the g1 insecticons setting them up as decendants of the insecticons -sky shadows bio refrences the beast wars (which so far there hasnt been an alternate telling of, there is only 1 beast wars in official fiction so i do not think it is refering to a beast wars but instead it is refering to the beast wars -in armada unicron looked close enough to his movie version that they even used movie footage for his toy comercial -i believe that cybertron blurrs bio showed him to be the original blurr im sure that there is more that im missing and i know that there are some holes to this theory but i thought that this would be an interesting discussion. as for rid it could probably fit within g1 but the japanese version would probably fit better so that there werent multiple people with the same names running around. also remember before armada debuted there were rumors that it would be a continuation of g1, what if that was true? if any one has info that discredits this theory or more to back it up then please share but please no posts saying that this is pointless because pointing out the pointlessness of a post is pretty pointless in and of itself.