Insecticon Status

Discussion in 'Transformers Robots In Disguise / Prime Discussion' started by Meta777, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. Meta777

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    From what we've seen from the two on-screen examples, Insecticons are truly powerful creatures. The first one handily shrugged off all of Arcee's attacks, and defeated her with just two tackles (And if Jack hadn't been there, there wouldn't have been a second tackle), and the second one managed to hold it's own in a fight with freaking Megatron.

    It's pretty clear that the combination of strength, durability, agility and the flight-capable beetle mode makes the Insecticon a highly desired addition to the ranks. Seems like the perfect soldier.

    What I was wondering is how the Insecticons were structured in the Decepticon military. Referred to as beasts and vermin, they don't appear to have much regard to the regular Cybertronians in terms of intelligence, but their amazing combat skills suggests an elite trooper, the best of the best.

    It's possible that they are utilised in specialised hit-squads, under the command of a regular general to take out particuarly difficult targets. If in large enough numbers, they would also make a formidable assault force, shrugging off all but the strongest weapons and mauling any Autobot in their path. We know they are used as sentries, like guard-dogs, to protect Decepticon territory. By this, I'd also assume that a high-ranking commander, like Starscream in his glory days, might even have a personal Insecticon body-guard; Starscream would certainly garner more obedience with a hulking pet looming over him to enforce his will XD

    The final muse is Airachnid; are there others like her, a specialised sodier designed to and capable of coercing total obedience in the beasts? Or is she a simple one-off, and Insecticons were commanded like regular troops? There seems to be a ringing sound associated with said obedience; could Soundwave, or anyone else, replicate the sound and thus replicate the control?

    So, what do you guys think? How did the Decepticons utilise these beasts in the war for Cybertron? Share your thoughts!
     
  2. Ratchets Hatch

    Ratchets Hatch Cannot Hold Weapon

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    My theory is that they were a native life form on Cybertron.

    During the waning days of the war, the Decepticons were looking for anything that would give them an edge, so they captured Insecticons to use as super soldiers, but they were too mindless and powerful to be controlled. So, Megatron had Shockwave create a hybrid - part Cybertronian, part Insecticon - who could act as a controller. Thus we have Airachnid.
     
  3. gregles

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    considering the nest of insecticons was found underground on earth they might be some spawn of unicron which may have infested cybertron at some point in the distant past. I'm guessing they might be portrayed a little weaker when attacking in large numbers if not we might be looking at queen insecticon airachnid
     
  4. Meta777

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    Hmmmm, good theories :D 
     
  5. PcPrime23

    PcPrime23 Filipinooooooooooooo

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    Very interesting theory dude.
     
  6. apparatus

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    I like the Unicron theory. (I like the Shockwave connection better though ;)  )

    As for Arachnid, she is truly a rogue, she is a wild card in that she doesn't have a need for the rank and structure of the Con army.

    The Insecticon, appears to be near mindless, a drone, pun intended. I don't see them as elite soldiers, as that term should be reserved for special ops/ commando types.

    However the Insecticons can make good super-soldiers. A definite step above a Vehicon.
    the Insecticons appear to be nearly impervious to pain, single-mindedly driven and totally focused on destroying their enemy, or perhaps slave labor for energon harvesting.

    If there seemed a weakness, I submit that they require a "Central Node." ergo, Arachnid.
    The obvious here is that she is based on species of "bug" called the Arachnid. (well, duh) and the insecticon, the insect.

    So they are not the same, not technically. (8-legs vs. 6-legs)

    However, a bug's a bug so maybe that gets expanded upon by the producers through time.
     
  7. Meta777

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    Good points. They are indeed intensely driven in their task at hand. Very useful in hunting and fighting Autobots :D 

    Ah, see, that's a common misconception: Arachnids aren't technically bugs; bugs are a minor species group in the insect system. A better term to group the lot together would be Arthropods :) 
     
  8. apparatus

    apparatus pre-Spark toaster

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    hunting autobots?

    I submit to you the 4th Faction, also a wild card.

    the Insecticons- they prey on either Autobots or Decepticons
    the Autobots
    the Decepticons and
    Mech

    also I subscribe to the Shockwave Conspiracy.

    Unless he eats it in TF:FoC, the writers have made him a mad scientist and either Grimlock's creator (Dr. Frankenstein anyone?) or Grimlock's captor/ torturer.

    If Shocky is indeed the evil scientist bent on insane creations, then it stands to reason that the Insecticons may have been a proto-struct he manufactured cycles ago...

    Also Shocky is an old-school favorite of mine and with his cannon-arm, could serve as the Decepticon tank some of us want.

    If their budget expands, Shocky could either make a cameo or arrival at Season's end.

    (all hopeful speculation on my part)
     
  9. Meta777

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    Seems cool. Shockwave is a current favourite in regards to how the Insecticons came about :) 

    All three factions better watch out; this time, it's the bugs going on a hunt.
     
  10. apparatus

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    In view of Armada, I think all theories have been effectively blown up.

    except the Shockwave/ Airachnid ones...
     
  11. Meta777

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    Seems like. The Insecticons do have a capability of intelligence and subservience to Megatron, so not quite mindless beasts.

    If, as someone else theorised, Airachnid wasn't created to control Insecticons for Megatron, then why have that power over them?

    New theory; if Shockwave is indeed responsible for her talent, then it stands to reason that her control is not for the Decepticon army to keep the Insecticon on their side, but instead, for Shockwave to betray Megatron by having his protege turn the monsters against him.
     
  12. ken8kuhletz08

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    Did Shockwave showed any signs of betrayal to Megatron in G1? If not, then that would really mess up the storyline of Prime. Sorry, not quite familiar with the original series.
     
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    Well, the Insecticons can speak ("We beg your forgiveness, one true lord and master!"), so I'd say that rules out them being totally mindless.

    Also, Shockwave is the creator of the "current" Insecticons in FoC. Apparently Insecticons in FoC were native lifeforms that dwelled near Cybertron's Core, but the Dark Energon pollution there drove them near the surface. Shockwave discovered these already vicious creatures and further modified them into machines of war, and these traits carried on to further generations of Insecticons. I hope that backstory gets repeated for TFP.
     
  14. Meta777

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    The cartoon version was very loyal. The comics version, well..... not so much.
     
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    I like this!
     
  16. TrueNomadSkies

    TrueNomadSkies Airachnid's ratservant

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    Tarantulas did it. :) 
     
  17. Meta777

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    LOL, it's always dem damn scientists, ain't it? XD
     
  18. apparatus

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    my question is with the Cons seemingly increasing their numbers with more mooks, as it were, does this bode that the Series will morph into Autobots who will take on hordes of Cons and mow them down, only struggling with the "named" decepticons?

    ergo: TF Prime becomes video game Escalation/ Horde mode with a story hook?

    (really sad that the 4 faction idea didn't blossom into reality)
     
  19. longhaulsub

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    Too one sided with all these added Decepticons, there has to be something happening soon on the Autobot side to even the playing field. I hope....
     
  20. StarYoshi14

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    If they were as powerful as they were in Orion Pax and Crossfire? Megatron would have gained a gigantic advantage. If they get one shot like in Armada, then they are just as useless ad Vehicons. I'm betting on the later.
     

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