Insect identification... help?

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  1. Sycia

    Sycia Draconian Faction

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    Hope someone here can help with identifying this minute insect I photographed a few days ago (the insect identification sites I've been to weren't too helpful). Here's a list of things I can remember about it.

    - Has 6 legs with 2 long feelers (and a couple of odd appendages I cannot quite make out)
    - Was active at night, appeared attracted to desk lamp light.
    - Located in Singapore.
    - Was not more than 3mm/ 0.11inches long.
    - Has a generally silver-ish appearance, with a band of yellow.
    - Flies.
    - Has wings of a feather-like texture.

    And now, some pictures of the fella:

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    EDIT:
    Thanks to Dark_Convoy, the insect has been identified! It looks like a cosmopterix clemensella.
    More info at the links below:

    http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/Files/Live/BP/BPspecies/1493.shtml
    http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/Files/Live/Living04.2F.shtml
    http://www.lepbarcoding.org/species...gidae,Cosmopteriginae,Cosmopterix clemensella

    EDIT:
    Words from the professionals! It's nearly impossible to identify its exact specie name, so it would be termed Cosmopterix sp. Thanks to Devastator001 for going through all that trouble! : ) You rock.
     
  2. QuinJester

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    Looks a bit like an earwig, but the tail doesn't look quite right.

    Hrm. All of my entymology books are 300 miles away, too.
     
  3. Devastator001

    Devastator001 Prepare for Devastation TFW2005 Supporter

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    It is a type of moth. In Entomology, majority of these types are considered Microlepidoptera. Too small to work with and identify. The exact species is unknown. A specialist in microlepidoptera may be able to place a name on the critter, but finding one around here is rather difficult. I'd suggest google The Lepidopterist's Society on the internet and see if the website has a membship directory to locate a specialist. Another suggestion is posting a picture on a entomology based forums like insectnet.com. Collectors may be able to identify it based on their collecting experiences in the region.
     
  4. TrickyDisco

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    Whatever it is, it looks awesome. The colouring of it makes the legs look almost metallic....

    Insecticon? :lol 
     
  5. DilaZirK

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    That's completely new to me...

    What did you do with the fella?
     
  6. Sycia

    Sycia Draconian Faction

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    Ummm nothing? It flew off right after I took the pictures XD.

    Incidentally, it was on Mao-chan's box while I was taking photographs for the strips.
     
  7. SPLIT LIP

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    It's freakin' cool that's what it is!

    If it has a baby, can I have one?
     
  8. Sycia

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    SPLIT LIP: If I ever find one again : )
     
  9. DilaZirK

    DilaZirK Is bullheaded.

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    Hah! :lol 
     
  10. planetjacker

    planetjacker Critters burn real good. TFW2005 Supporter

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    I was a little afraid to look into this thread but that is one cool looking bug. It almost dosen't look real.
     
  11. SKowl

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    Cool little critter.

    I used to be a big bug expert back in the day, I read alot about them and could identify most of the local insects of Canada.

    Singapore is a little far from home, but I'm 100% sure it's a moth of some type. Narrowing it down would be difficult, there are an awful lot of moth species out there...
     
  12. Sycia

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    Cool Devastator001, Skowl. Thanks for narrowing it down for me! : ) I've got a feeling not many collectors would know this, since it was pretty tiny, but it's worth a try. Thanks again!

    planetjacker: The metallic sheen made it all the cooler!
     
  13. Devastator001

    Devastator001 Prepare for Devastation TFW2005 Supporter

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    It wouldn't suprise me if this little critter turn out to be a species new to science. The only way to know is a specialist who work on moth taxonomy to determine it. There are many insects in SE Asia which turn out to be new to science every year. My colleague from Finland is describing a lot of new beetle species already based on collecting from that region to Australia and New Caledonia.
     
  14. Sycia

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    Yeah, I've been wondering if it's ever been described before. : )
     
  15. Dark_Convoy

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    Yeah, it looks like a mecha-insect!

    It's spying on you!!!

    EDIT:

    Hey, look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelechiidae - the one in the pic has different colors but very similar body type.
     
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  16. Liege Prime

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    Yeah, if I didn't read your post saying it's a real bug, I would have guessed it was some kind of metal sculpture to resemble a bug. Pretty neat.
     
  17. Sycia

    Sycia Draconian Faction

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    Dude, I love you. The name you gave me wasn't exactly it, but searching for it through google, I came up with these links!

    http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/Files/Live/BP/BPspecies/1493.shtml
    http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/Files/Live/Living04.2F.shtml (scroll down a lil)
    http://www.lepbarcoding.org/species...gidae,Cosmopteriginae,Cosmopterix clemensella

    Looking at the pictures in the last link, I'm wondering if their wings function more like insect or bird ones oO
    So it's a Cosmopterix clemensella with no real common name! Thanks to all who helped! (Maybe I should do this more often ^^)
     
  18. Devastator001

    Devastator001 Prepare for Devastation TFW2005 Supporter

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    It looks like you got the right genus. But, I have my doubts on the species name. Members of the genus can be found world-wide, but the species in question is largely endemic to North America. Do keep in mind, you may have a new species. If you come across another speciman, I would suggest collecting one for a professional to examine. Only a professional with the expertise in moth taxonomy knows what to look for when identifying the moth. That could also including dissecting genetalia to accurately identifying them. I know someone in the academic circle who works on microlepidoptera, particularly Tortrichid moths. he may know the cirtter or know someone who specializes in Cosmopterigid moths. It'll take some time to track him since I haven't seen him in eight years.
     
  19. Sycia

    Sycia Draconian Faction

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    Yeah, I was a little weirded about the fact most of the collection points are from North America. Then again, not many people here would bother collecting insects short of grabbing the insecticide. I also saw another link that said one specimen was collected from somewhere in Russia.

    Thanks for your input man! I'll be on the lookout more often : )
     
  20. Devastator001

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    It is quite fortunate you found an entomologist actively posting on this board. I found my contact who works on microlepidoptera. I copied and e-mail one of the pictures posted on the thread for identification to a colleague of mine. I hope to hear from him tomorrow on this and finally get the name on this critter. Once I get the name, I'll post the OFFICAL name on this thread.
     

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