In Hollywood, Romans/Mythological Characters are British/Australian

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  1. 03Mach1

    03Mach1 Reason Has No Voice

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    Why do they all have to have a British/Australian accent? Gladiator, Clash of the Titans, Immortal, 300*, King Arthur...the list is endless. The lead characters, many of them Romans (from that small little town in ITALY where they speak ITALIAN) all have either a British or Australian accent. What gives?

    I know that thread title was not comprehensive but just run with it.

    *Yes, I know Sparta is not in Rome. Again, just play along.
     
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    I noticed this trend a lot lately and I don't understand why. I think there's just more people with an British accent who speak English than people with an Italian accent who speak English.
     
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    Cause it's exotic and familiar to the main audience at the same time.
     
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    Well, no one would be able to understand them, if they were speaking Latin. You can't entertain people, with a dead language.
     
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    Its because they're usually portraying rome as the civilized location, and the characters as high-class or from aristocracy. The British accent helps convey these aspects.

    Same reason so many imperial officers are British in star wars (also because of all the production done in London).

    And yeah, Romans spoke Latin, not Italian. Hence Latin was the language of the educated for close to a thousand years.
     
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    Hollywood says:
     
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    Itd be funny if they did use italian mobster accent tho.

    THIS EES-A SPAAAARTAAAAAA
     
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    Cause american actors are pussies.
     
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    There's a problem if King Arthur speaks with a British accent? Isn't he...British?
     
  11. 03Mach1

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    It's debatable. Some historians believe he was a Roman stationed in Britain.

    And my bad on the Italian/Latin language. I wasn't thinking.
     
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    It really depends. Most depictions of Arthur place him sometime in the Dark Ages, and I think the implication is that he reigned after the Romans left and before the Normans came.

    As mach said, some historians think the Arthurian myth is an allegory to Roman rule in England, and there's some compelling arguments for this (eg. Excalibur = "ex calibre", latin for from the mold, as roman swords were often cast instead of forged, and were of higher quality on average than gaelic/celtic swords of the same era).

    However, the point I'm getting at is, at that point in history, Arthur shouldn't speak English with a British accent, because English doesn't exist yet. He should be speaking some gaelic/celtic/saxon tongue, depending on when the piece is set. But since the audience is unlikely to understand those languages, he speaks English with a British accent.
     
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    They should just get everybody to sound like michael caine in those toga n sandals movies. Id watch the hell out of that.
     
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    I would think the director or whoever wants such lead characters to sound refined, hence the British accent. When they want a character to sound dumb, like say a cartoon pigeon, they give him a Brooklyn accent. "ay, yooz guys likes chransfawmis?"
     
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    ^ :lol 
     
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    Fourth or fifth century, is the time frame I've heard, making None of Aurthur's swords constructed like most popular depictions. Excalibur was not the sword he pulled from the stone. He got Excalibur after he broke that sword. The only name I've heard for sword in the stone is Caliburn.

    That said, there are versions of the legend that condense all three of Arthur's swords into Excalibur. I've also run across at least one source claiming that Briton was Wales not all of Great Britain, making Aurthur a Welsh king, and not king of England. But then, I think I've run across at least one claiming that Briton was originally a part of Begium, which really screws things up.
     

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