I have picked up quite a few basics repaints lately from the Cybertron era. They are way cooler than the ROTF ones. The simplicity of the trasformation on the older ones is the bonus for me. The play value is ten times greater than the deluxes we've been getting because of the easier transformation. The funny thing is that I hated basics with a passion when I first started re-collecting. I guess it's just anything in life, don't be hating on it until you have tried it.