If they make a 4th movie, how will that impact on Dino/Mirage?

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  1. Orbital

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    So, I've been thinking about this for awhile, lets assume another sequel is made to continue on from Bay's trilogy. Naturally most, if not all of the cast who survived Dark of the Moon will return but what is Hasbro going to do with Dino/Mirage?

    He's alt mode is a Ferrari and Hasbro doesn't hold the rights to make toys of Ferrari products. They can't name the character in the film with a Hasbro trademarked name or any name affiliated with any products produced by Hasbro either. So would Hasbro really be fine with another repeat of this situation? Will they continue to let Ferrari place they're 458 Italia in as product placement, request they're approval of how they're going to use the product/character in the film and finally not be able to market it off of it properly? The only pro's I can think of is they have a nice looking car in the film and they get extra funds for the movie. So overall the negatives out weight the positives.

    So another option, will they give Dino/Mirage a new alt mode? if they do that, they can't name the character Dino since it's not Trademarked(TM) by them, also if they do name him that, won't they fall into the same trap of not being able to market off of him because the name has an affiliation with Ferrari? So now its looking like they'll stick to the name Mirage, however, to regular audiences members who are oblivious to the naming issues with this character, they will see him as a new character, not Dino...so won't this complicate things further for Hasbro? Furthermore, Francesco Quinn has sadly passed away, so the character will have to be recast with a different voice causing more separation between this character's portrayal to his previous one. Whats the point now of reintroducing this character(who was hardly used) when Hasbro has basically created a new character to regular movie goers? for continuity sake? They might as well use a completely new name so they can introduce a new character into the franchise rather than going through a headache of a process trying to continue using this character in this franchise.

    What do you think is the future of this character? to continue being called Dino in the live adaptions, reintroduced as Mirage, or axed like Jolt?
     
  2. Nachtsider

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    Francesco Quinn is hardly irreplaceable. His performance was pretty forgettable; if they have someone else stand in for him, someone else who does a competent job at imitating what he delivered, no one will tell the difference. You think any of the general public noticed Sideswipe's voice change?

    That being said, they'll probably just make Mirage disappear, like they did the Twins.
     
  3. Aernaroth

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    He was a minor character in the bayverse so we'll probably never see him again, just like Jolt and to some degree Ratchet.
     
  4. PRIMEMAN3457

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    I'd say, he either never talks and dies, or........
    This
     
  5. OptimusPancake

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    if Mirage isnt in the 4th movie, I will be dissapointed!
    Hes one of my favorites!
    He got about as much screentime as Sideswipe in the 2nd and Sideswipe got a bigger role in the 3rd. So maybe it could be the same for the 4th!
     
  6. Aernaroth

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    Maybe it'll be like Devastator where you get a Devastator more like the original in the next film and everyone has to forget they called a different guy Devastator before.
     
  7. Shockwave69

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    have Mirage continue as the Ferrari 458. Name it Dino, and get some other Italian actor for his voice. Simple.
     
  8. Starscreamownz

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    Hasbro could easily modify the alternate mode so it wouldn't be exactly the same as the Ferrari and call it an Italian sports car. That way Hasbro isn't specifically making a Ferrari toy.
     
  9. Hellscream15

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    I'm guessing they can get another voice actor, completely upgrade him to another car that aint ferrari and call him mirage and ignore dino
     
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    but also name him Merge in the 4th one! the francesco dude who played DINO nobody new him that well! when they did the post about i was alll ehhhhh! but if it was the voice of OPTIMUS PRIME, MAGATRON,STARCREAM THEN YEAH THAT WILL BE HUGE NEWS SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FROM THE G1 SAGA! SO BEING SAID NAME HIM

    MERGE AND THE VOICE ACTOR SHIA VEHICLE F-1 Ligier JS-11 racer
    Weapons: Rocket-Dart Hunting Rifle,Holograms
     
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    I think they'll probably kill him off-screen [sadly], both to not disrespect Franceso Quinn, and due Ferrari's douchebaggery.

    I am one of the few that think that Quinn's perfomance as Dino cannot be replicated, I don't know why, but something stroke me as deeply unique on Dino/Mirage's lines, replacing Quinn would be meh for me.
     
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    Antonio Banderas? Since Dino sounds like Puss in Boots.
     
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    Recast and hope that Ferrari will let him have his proper name back.
     
  14. Buster_Witwicky

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    His name doesn't need to be said in the movie.
     
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    That laugh he did was contagious!
     
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    He's dead
     
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    If they had to recast.

    Dave Wittenburg as Dino. He did his voice in the DOTM prequel game and holy crap it sounded awesome.

    No one apreciates Dave at all.
     
  18. dino52

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    i hope they brimg him back he was tite
     
  19. The F.N.G.

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    If they bring him back: I'd say have him scan a new alt-mode (avoiding licensing issues with Ferrari), and call him Mirage, while acknowledging "Dino" as a codename.

    If they kill him off: Acknowledge his disappearance by saying he was killed during a mission to locate Decepticon forces remaining on Earth.
     
  20. seekerblackout

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    THIS. But take out the Dino part. Mirage FTW
     

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