I think the Allspark is evil

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  1. rapid_fire

    rapid_fire TFW2005 Supporter

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    think about it.. it does nothing for the autobots in either movie so far.

    in the first movie, it regenerated frenzy, but wouldn't do anything for bumblebee's voicebox. It transformed a bunch of electronics into evil, fully armed robots.

    and sure.. it killed megatron, but that wasn't its fault, it was sams. I think it originally influenced optimus to jam the cube in his OWN chest trying to kill him by making optimus commit suicide, but sam fucked it up and jammed it in megatrons chest instead.

    which brings us to the second movie. Again, the shards create life, but all the little bots are evil as fuck, and destroy everything in sight. Later the shards are used to bring Megatron and jetfire back online, obviously the transformers know this power of the allspark can regenerate bots no problem, but it doesn't do shit for optimus cuz he's not evil. He has to lay there dead untill sam figures out another way to bring him back online.

    farfetched?
     
  2. Ratchet2007

    Ratchet2007 Neither Here Nor There

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    why is this in the News forum ?
     
  3. Bass X0

    Bass X0 King of Muay Thai

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    its news that the allspark is evil?



    I kid.
     
  4. rapid_fire

    rapid_fire TFW2005 Supporter

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    oops, wrong forum, please move lol

    I thought I was in the movie forum
     
  5. Doug

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    You have brought up a good point.
     
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    makes sense to me.
     
  7. Mechafire

    Mechafire Veteran TFW2005 Supporter

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    Hmm. You do have some good points...
     
  8. eisen

    eisen "CUT ME SOME SLACKS!"

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    unicron planted allsparks in multiple universes so he can eat everything that grew from it later. :confused: 
     
  9. janeDoe001

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    Wasn't it explained for the Movieverse that when the Transformers stopped being neutral, the Decepticons rose first? Or did I just hear things and make it up... again?


    jD001
     
  10. RedWolf

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    You heard wrong and made it up again.

    Given the statements that Optimus is a Prime descendant, Jetfire had a mum and a dad (who was a wheel) and hatchlings I take it the Allspark only creates life but not intelligence.

    In ROTF it turns out the Allspark is a glorified Energon cube which soaks up the energy sucked by the harvester.

    Which explains why Cybertron is dead without it.

    Its energy is not infinite it is finite thus needing ocassional recharging.

    I find that plot similar to Rebirth where Vector Sigma needed to activate the Plasma Energy Chamber around a sun and somebody to channel the energy to itself to recharge Cybertron.
     
  11. Wheeljack_Prime

    Wheeljack_Prime Don't eat me

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    As explained by Orci, the Allspark creation are not evil, they're feral. It creates beings with animalistic instincts, which consist solely of "Survive! Survive! Survive by any means necessary!"
     
  12. rapid_fire

    rapid_fire TFW2005 Supporter

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    animals don't violently attack everything they see lol those little bots seemed pretty pleased of their destructiveness. Why kick over the bag of bread? that's not animalistic

    they're evil :p 
     
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    Actually the allspark did fix bumblebee's voice box. He was just playing it up as Sam put it in the 2nd movie. Anyways I see it as neutral as it would fix any transformer in it's vicinity. And the reason the transformers created by the cube are evil is due to the technology which is based on Megatron's. Do not forget he was used to create our tech by studying his.
     
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    Well Sam needed to find another way to bring him back cause there were only 2 shards of the Allspark 1 went to Megs (the 1 Prime kept at end of the first movie) and the other went to Jetfire(the one Sam found).
     
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    Megatron's tech isn't different from an Autobot's so that isn't the reason for Allspark bots going feral.

    As shown by Jetfire and Wheelie just because you were born a Con does not mean you are evil.
     

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