I officially don't understand why people rave about Se7en

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  1. Optimus Sledge

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    First saw the film... ten years ago, maybe a little longer. Wasn't very impressed. Since then, I've heard that it's a classic of modern cinema. Picked it up on DVD a couple of months ago thinking "Maybe I was just too young to appreciate it." Watched the film. Wasn't impressed. Just watched it again. Still not impressed.

    Don't get me wrong, it's not bad. It's just average. Morgan Freeman is good, but that goes without saying. Kevin Spacey is good, as he should be. Brad Pitt can fuck off, as per usual. Nothing unexpected there. The characters are generic, the plot feels like it's trying to be a lot deeper than it is, and the assorted shock moments just feel out of place. So what am I missing? What's so great about this film?
     
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    What's in the Box!!!?! :cry 
     
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    Pretty much it. The ending has been so over-hyped that somehow the movie has a quasi-classic status.
     
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    The box. Jesus, that was stupid. First of all, what kind of moron would open the box? Let the bomb squad check it, you dipstick! Second, don't tell Mills his wife's head is in the box. Lie. Say it's empty, or a teddy bear or anything that won't set him off. Hell, tell him to go look, then tell the guys in the chopper to intercept him and pick him up. For someone with a "big brain," Somerset sure is a moron.
     
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    You got judged, Sledge.
     
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    Optimus Sledge Yar har fiddle di dee

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    No. The people raving about this movie are judged. It's an average serial killer flick with dumbass cops. You want a good serial killer film? Manhunter. Se7en can kiss my balls.
     
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    Any movie with a strap-on knife=win.
     
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    Keep in mind that this was many people's first exposure to Kevin Spacey. I think his performance over shadows the movie itself, and that's why people have fond memories of it.

    Like Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs.

    I may be wrong, just my take on it.
     
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    Saw it, hated the ending, never gonna watch it again.

    If I want an unhappy ending, I'll watch something that doesn't piss me off as much as this movie did.
     
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    Well it's also that it was much better than many of the movies that were released around the same time. If you've been watching crap and there is a decent movie with good acting. It elevates it a lot. That's how I recall it anyway.
     
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    Let's ignore that it's a excellently crafted and (for the time) clever movie that had an extremely memorable twist.
     
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    Oh, and Brad Pitt was soo dreamy.
     
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    I like the psychological aspect of it; you could teach a psychology lesson using each character
     
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    Yeah, I agree with Twist here. The movie has good pacing, amusing but not too over-the-top characters, some good preformances and was generally copied by a lot of other subsequent crime movies. The sloth death will always stay with me as one of the most horrible things I've seen done to someone in a movie. I do feel that the script for Spacey's character had him over-hyping his own finally, but I wasn't really dissapointed.
     
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    Of course it will look average 15 years later.


    Back in the day the acting was great(Pitt was ok at best),the plot was original and the ending was shocking.


    These days movies fail in one or more of these areas.

    And i would take Lambs over Man-hunter any day.
     
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    Yo Silence of the Lambs, I'mma let you finish, but Se7en was the best serial killer flick of all time.
     
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    Meh, I liked Se7en alright, but Red Dragon is where it's at for creepiness.
     
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    I agree that Hopkins performance overshadowed everything else in Lambs. The film would have been so much better without his panto villain performance.
    A quick check of films released in 1995 shows:
    Desperado
    Heat
    Mallrats
    Virtuosity

    Those are the four films that leap out to me as superior movies released that year. Under Siege 2 also came out that year, which is gloriously entertaining if not in the same acting class. Strangely, a lot of stuff the Nostalgia Critic has covered was released in '95. I wonder if he's planning to cover Se7en? :tongue: 
    Bullshit. Quality endures. Heat remains as good today as it was then. Casablanca remains one of the great romantic films of all time.
    You've been judged. Harshly.
     
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    Now you need to watch Shatner's parody of it from the MTA movie awards from years ago. Its awesome. Shatner plays all the characters
     

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