i know alot of people seem to complain about how the military helped defeat he Decepticons, but i was just thinking it through, and they really didnt do anything to effect the outcome of the battles. i mean, think about it: 1) Scorponok-one of the only two times humans really defeated a Decepticon, but even still, he's alive and kicking 2) Blackout-the other time the humans helped defeat a Decepticon, and even still-it was a barrage of plane missiles and a lucky shot to the chest. Spoiler and of all the Decepticons that were killed, he is the one reawakening-so its like the humans were never even there 3) Megatron-was killed by the cube. not by Sam, but the Allspark. all the damage humans did to him with the planes-didnt make a difference-once Sam pushed the cube into his chest, he was done for, no matter what. so the humans may as well have not done anything at all. 4) Frenzy-died at his own hand. it was in a fight with the humans, but they didnt really do anything to kill him. 5) Brawl-hard to say on this one-i mean sure, they shot him repeatedly with Sabot rounds, but the only noticable damage was done by Jazz, BB, Ratchet, and Ironhide. again, the Humans attacking him may not have had much effect. 6) Bonecrusher-died at the blade of Optimus Prime 7) Barricade-still alive 8) Starscream-also still alive So did the humans really have any effect on the outcome of the war? no, not really-all they did was hit Blackout Spoiler , but it doesnt matter cause he's back . So why does everyone complain about the Humans taking down the Decepticons?