Huge Animated Plothole

Discussion in 'Transformers Animated Discussion' started by Brawlastator, Jun 30, 2008.

  1. Brawlastator

    Brawlastator it is our life - jon bovi

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    IF the AllSpark was lost to space sometime during the Great War a really long time ago, then how did newer bots like Optimus and his crew come online?
     
  2. Valkysas

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    a reserve of allspark energy? something like the matrix exists? something that channels the energy to cybertron, without direct contact with the allspark?

    lots of ways out of that one.
     
  3. DaraRex2.0

    DaraRex2.0 I'd totally eat the leaf

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    Maybe there was a well of sparks that was left behind and only the caretaker Vector Sigma could draw forth new sparks from it. Hint hint.

    This really isn't a fair question.
     
  4. jazz4ever

    jazz4ever I'm turned on by numbers

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    in the show bumblebee and bulkhead was in training during the war so the allspark might have still been in the autobots possesion prime only seems a bit older than them prowl seems there age and we all now ratchet is really super old and plus transformers time may work different so new may be old to us
     
  5. Autobus Prime

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    On the contrurry, I think it's a very fair question and an interesting one. What you mention is one possibility. But what do we know about the Animated Allspark? Is it the "heart" of Cybertron, the only way to generate new life, or is it just a very powerful artifact? I seem to remember that it was more the latter thing.
     
  6. Silent_Magnus

    Silent_Magnus Taint of Primus

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    Like in a lot of earth religions, the allspark might have just given life to the first transformers.
    Then they somehow made more after that.
     
  7. Feralstorm

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    Maybe the Allspark is not the ONLY way to make a Transformer (at least on Cybertron)
     
  8. Ravenxl7

    Ravenxl7 W.A.F.F.L.E.O.

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    Umm...they weren't alive during the Great Wars. Yeah they were in training, but the Great Wars ended before they came online, as I understand it. Megatron breaking into their ship was the first time they ever saw a Decepticon. The only one in that ship that had seen one in person was Ratchet. Ratchet and Ultra Magnus are the only two Autobots we know of that are still alive from the Great Wars. Arcee will most likely be added to that short list, as they are trying to work her into the third season. As for the question, there are many different possibilities to explain it. One of the better one's, imo, is that there is a giant well of sparks somewhere in Cybertron, or something like that. I personally don't see it as a big deal.
     
  9. Harbinger

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    yeah they havent said that the allspark is the only source of transformer life. its just A source of it. as Silent_Magnus said, it might have given life to the first transformers but then they found their own way to create new life. and as autobus prime says, its more regarded as a relic then a well of souls.

    oh and the great war was 2 million years ago according to the final ep of animated (for now).

    jazz4ever, i dont think bulkhead and bumblebee got though bootcamp by the end of the great war or they would be old and crusty as ratchet, they seem to have gotten to there new assignment after bootcamp only shortly before the first episode. the Optimus fallout over elite 1 probably happened at a point after bootcamp. atm we have no info onto why Prowl failed to finish his ninja training or why he was assigned to help repair space bridges.
     
  10. Nachtsider

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    This is personal canon, mind you, but I think it's worth sharing. Pulled it off the Decepticon Dominion website.

     
  11. jazz4ever

    jazz4ever I'm turned on by numbers

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    i must of got my time frames mixed up...maybe they bud
     
  12. justinRODimus

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    you see, when a momma bot, and a daddy bot love each other, something very special happens...
     
  13. omega knight

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    ya they make babys ! XP grimlock where babys come from.....

    me grimlock say HERE

    O.M.G
    ................

    oh what not enough lady bots for that to work.
     
  14. Scourgatron

    Scourgatron What of it?

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    Vector Fucking Sigma
     
  15. Magelite

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    Methinks the Allspark's power is energon. When it arrived on cybertron it cyberformed the planet, creating vast energon deposits which the cybertronians now farm. Sparks are made from energon, and the Autobots have the expertise to create new sparks from raw energon without the allspark.
     
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    What a funny fictional philosophical conundrum!
     
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    Funny, I was thinking about this not so long ago, along with how new bots are built (assembly line?). I decided to go with a personal answer which was some sort of allspark powered vector sigma computer which decides when new bots should be built.
     
  18. SPLIT LIP

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    Who said the Allspark has to be near them to give them life? Maybe it's just the life-supplier.

    Lots of evidence points to TFs being manufactured, then brought to life by the Allspark through almost Godly means.
     
  19. Wingspanky

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    FOR THE WIN!!!!!! LOL
     
  20. thundrwaveprime

    thundrwaveprime the witch king

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    it's the only logical answer, i mean, why would transformers have feelings of love if they couldnt reproduce themselves? and incase u were wondering:

    optimus + blackarachnia = some demented truck-spider hybrid

    why not tarantulas? i already have a fanfic for that.

    heres another plothole, howd blackarachnia get off the unnamed organic planit?
     

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