How to waste your money on Japanese imports!

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Nevermore, Feb 22, 2006.

  1. Nevermore

    Nevermore It's self-perpetuating a parahumanoidarianised!

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    I've never understood some people's obsession with ALWAYS having to buy the JAPANESE version of a toy. I mean, I bought the Binaltech toys, but I also picked up some Cybertron stuff I managed to pick up locally. If you think some Japanese toys look better than the Hasbro versions (especially if they're drastically different from anything Hasbro releases, or even exclusive Takara-only toys), I can understand it, but people shelling out ridiculous amounts of money to import Takara's toy but refusing to buy anything Hasbro releases, unless they "can find it on clearance", that's something I never understood.

    However, what we have here adds a whole new dimension to all this "Japanese superior, Hasbro inferior" nonsense:

    Here we have the Star Wars Transformers we all know by now. Price is 15 dollars per toy.

    These are the Tomy Direct releases of the STWFs. They're straight imports of the US toys, like those "USA Editions". Price is 2980 Yen, or 25 dollars, per toy, plus shipping. In other words, anyone considering to order them will pay more then 10 dollars extra for the same toys he can buy locally, with the only difference being an extra Japanese sticker on the packaging.

    Here you see Archonia, an online store based in Belgium that specializes in Japanese imports, offering the Japanese versions of the SWTFs for preorder. In other words, they're selling European imports of the Japanese imports of the US toys. Price is 27 Euros, or 32 dollars, per toy, plus shipping.

    Meanwhile, Hasbro's European branches, including Hasbro Germany (!), are already selling the SWTFs. Prices are in the 20 Euro (24 Dollars) region.

    So you'd end up paying a major markup for having a double import shipped to your home where the only difference is a sticker on the packaging, when you could pick up the same toy locally, without shipping, for less. On top of that, those double imports won't be available until two months after those toys' official European release.

    I laugh at anyone who's actually willing to shell out the extra money for a sticker. :lol 
     
  2. Insane Galvatron

    Insane Galvatron is not insane. Really!

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    I never understood that either. A friend of mine payed alot extra ( can't remember how much ) for GF deluxes. I think he had Thundercracker and Hot Shot. Now the shelves are flooded with those two for only $10 each. Maybe for both if you get the two packs. As far as I could tell, they were identical. Wasted money. :( 
     
  3. Optimus-JD

    Optimus-JD Team Laser Explosion!

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    Grass is greener syndrome. Even if it's the same grass with a different sign in the yard. I've seen some pretty insane examples of it. The fun part is when you hear the reasons why.
     
  4. Thundercracker

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    Got to agree with you, and I don't get it either. The only time I went out of my way to get the Japan version was for the G1 reissues because I didn't want the viagra jet missles or the un-chromed weapons. Tried the BT thing too, didn't think they warranted the extra $$ and actually like the ALT version better.
     
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    depends where you live. so far for me its been cheaper to get galaxy force shipped over from a decent online retailer than have cybertron figs shipped from the US. i know a few other guys on the board from the UK who have the same issue.
     
  6. Orodruin

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    I think a lot of it, at least lately with GF/Cyb, is time. The GF stuff was out so much sooner than the Cyb version, sometimes it's worth the extra cash. I don't usually import, but I sprung for Exigeyser and Backgild way back in September or so, and I've yet to see either of the domestic version and doubt I will for another few weeks. An extra $20-30 was worth it to me to get them 5-6 months sooner.

    Of course in your examples, yeah... all that extra just for a sticker is stupid.
     
  7. aey103

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    I normally don't import things unless there is it will be an exclusive to Japan. For example, some of the re-issues and the yellow and blue Ramble Drones. I wouldn't have imported the red one, but since it was part of the three pack I had to get it. Otherwise I would have waited for the US retail. I can see the other side of the coin too, especially when the toys are first released in Japan and there are not in sight for the US for 6 or 7 months. So far I have had patience and not given in this temptation yet, but it has been difficult at times. But I too don't see any reason for paying extra for the same thing imported from Japan that I can simply walk on over to Target/Wal-Mart/etc and buy. In fact I felt kind of dumb when I ordered re-issue Astrotrain only to have Hasbro announce they would actually release this on their on-line store.
     
  8. Cyclone_X

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    if the items are exactly the same, then indeed it's not logical to pay more, but with differences it's easier to understand, except when it's just a sticker slapped over the box

    other than the western VS eastern thing there is also the 'exclusivity' thing, some items are released earlier in Japan (same goes for testshots, which is even more ridiculous to pay insane amounts for when it's a finished testshot, or already in package)

    for european customers it can be cheaper to buy japanese imports over locally released Hasbro items (LoC vs EZ collection: difference of 1.5 euro per item, in favor of EZ)

    but then, it's not my money that others are spending ;) 
     
  9. Nightrain

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    No matter how much you try perpetuating this myth, the exact opposite will always be true on this board. You're only preaching to the choir.

    The number of attacks against Takara fans lately has been daunting. What do you keep trying to prove to yourselves?
     
  10. Nevermore

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    I'm not attacking Takara fans. I have no problem if someone prefers, say, Takara Vector Prime over Hasbro Vector Prime. The only thing I find ridiculous is when some people are so devoted to Takara that they start to treat Hasbro like the antichrist or something, and thus would rather pay ridiculous prices for a Takara version of a toy even if it's dead on identical to the Hasbro version.

    Or, in other words:
    If the Takara version comes molded in nicer plastic colors, has more paint apps than the Hasbro version and on top of that is available earlier - get the Takara version if you prefer it.
    If the Hasbro version is available earlier, has the same plastic colors and the same (or even MORE) paint apps as the Takara version - why do you keep wasting your money on importing?
     
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    So far I've only gotten a handful of Takara things over Hasbro. Those being GF Convoy, Starscream, Excelion, and Vector Prime. I got them when they first came out because I couldn't wait. I admit to liking the Takara versions of Convoy, Starscream, and VP a little better, but it's not a huge deal. Excelion is cool, but the Hasbro version seems slightly better due to not having Autobot symbols that can be rubbed right off.

    Hasbro rocks, but I do like Takara slightly better solely due to my love of Microman.

    One thing that does interest me a little is what will happen when the classics come out. They're apparently 100% Hasbro and there's no word on Takara versions at the moment. I'm not saying it will be funny to see the kinds of comments that will apear, just interesting.
     
  12. Grimlock_13

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    Great thread Nevermore, great thread. I'll never understand the obsession with importing either.

    Though, like others have pointed out it seemed the importing craze was exacerbated with GF since it out to much sooner.

    Anything else, IMO is a huge waste of money. I'll never understand the obsession wish paint apps either...I can understand wanting a toy to look nice, but the only major noticeable difference between the GF and Cyb stuff is Vector Prime. Everything else just seems like superficial blobs of paint, and thats definitely not worth the added price to me.

    Overall I know it's just preference, but IMO importing is nothing but a massive waste of time and money when, also as others have stated the EXACT same toy will be on domestic shelves in a matter of weeks (or, in GF case months). I'm nore then happy to wait when I have rent, utilities and car payments to worry about in the meantime.
     
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    I don't think anyone's trying to prove themselves. Also why is this different from the "Hazbro Haytes Uz" posts that I've seen much more frequently then the ones against Takara?
     
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    Especially if we're talking about SWTFs for God's sake.

    I only go for things that are either:
    1) unavailable in their Japanese form stateside (GF Starscream)
    2) have drastically different paint apps (Vector Prime) or subtle, yet superior, paint differences (GF Soundwave, TFC #9 Starscream)
    3) have vastly superior packaging (CR Baldigus, JRX boxset, Energon combiners, Primus), since I keep boxes
    4) are available waaay earlier than their USA counterparts (most of CR...and pretty much all the stuff above as well)

    Some, like CR Baldigus, pretty much fall into all of the above. Better 'Brawl' and combiner highlight colors, in a box set that was available before RiD was even announced. Conversely, GF Demolishor/Cyb Mudflap..no incentive.
     
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    Why ask Why? Try Bud Dry! Well I only get Binaltech because at the beginning of the line they beat Hasbro to the line. So I just stayed with Binaltech line I really don't get anything else other than statues. I thought of starting the TF Collection line by Takara because I could get a G1 Megatron. But everywhere I have looked he is marked up quite alot. Oh well that's my two cents. :horse:  :horse: 
     
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    Because you and Nevermore live in this little bubble where you think there are all these evil elitist Takara fans forcing themselves on you.

    The reality is, there has been an on-going backlash against Takara for years here. Hell, just take a look at this thread.
     
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    Well, I purchase everything from both lines because there will almost always be differences between the lines - sometimes significant, sometimes minimal - but enough to justify the purchase for me. But I still find that to be VERY different than purchasing the toy from Takara when it's a "USA edition" of the EXACT same toy.

    There's a subset of our fandom that collects packaging varaiants though, so more power to 'em. But if it's solely because it's "more Takara and therefore more legitimate" because of the sticker, then yeah, that's silly.
     
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    I like the japanese boxes better, that is why i keep japanese toys misb or mib.
     
  19. GetterDragun

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    This coming from someone who catalogs every Transformer box UPC code? Ha, plus how much time do you spend on line studying Transformers "Ooh, look these Product Codes are different!", I don't know about you, but to me, time=money and you certainly waste a lot of it.

    So, Pot meet FritzenKettle.
     
  20. Red Dragon

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    I understand what you mean the only ones I import are if Hasbro didn't do the paint the right way (i.e. Vector Prime, Starscream) or it was never released in the US (i.e. Lio Convoy).

    For example, I just got GF Vector Prime because I wanted the extra paint and stiffer plastic on his wings and sword, my other 2 Cybertron Vector Primes (1 bought separately, 1 from SS vs VP 2-pack) I am going to keep one as it is and customize the other. I also have the GF Starscream because I was disappointed with the Cyb Starscreams colors, otherwise I only buy Hasbro, gotta keep them in business so we can continue to get our wonderful TF toys.
     

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