How To Make TLK A Great Film

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  1. Awesomepow

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    -Canopy is replaced with Mirage.
    -Cast is Optimus Prime,Bumblebee,Mini Dinobots,Skids,Mudflap,Wheelie,Chromia,Wreckers,Brains,Dinobots,Drift,Crosshairs,Hound,Hot Rod,Cogman,Sqweeks,Alliance,Galvatron,Barricade,Reedman,Scalpel,Igor,TF3 Garbage Truck,TF3 Pickup Truck,TF3 D.C. Police Car,Dispensor,Berserker,Mohawk,Hatchlings,Lensmeters,TF1 Steering Wheel Bot,Traxes,Insecticons,Steeljaws,Mercenaries,and Knightship Staffers are the principal Bots and Cons.
    -Other characters are Daytrader,Unicron,Cybertron,Quintessa,Quintessons,and Infernocus.
    -Infernocus doesn't die.
    -Humans are Cade Yeager,Tessa Yeager,Joshua Joyce,Colonel Lennox,Viviane Wembley,Sir Edmond Burton,Military,and TRF.
    -No Cuba asylum.
    -Lots of characters omitted.
    -Megatron is Galvatron darn it.
    -There are 13 Knights.None are killed.They include Dragonicus,Stormreign,Steelbane,Skullitron,Fireblast,Hero,Guardian,Talisman,Ancient,and 4 more.
    -Only death is Mirage.
    -TRF is KSI 2.0.
    -Quintessa is not the only Quintesson,others show up.
    -Unicron is almost ready.
    -Quintessa has no human form.
    -Viviane flashbacks are cut.
    -Sir Edmond Burton doesn't die.
    -Cybertron isn't restored to be organic with grass.
    -Topspin HAS HIS OWN HEAD.

    Comments?

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    Awesomepow
     
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  2. primal789

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    I like some of the ideas in here...so to make things easier I'll comment more about the things that I don't agree that much or what I would keep from all this..I think that many characters would make it..I dunno if worse but change things like less screentime for Cybertron.I actually like the Cuba scenes...I also think it's more interesting to have this story arc with Tessa and Cade separated instead of you know..what everyone would expect.Also on Megatron and Galvatron I got mixed feelings because I really like the Knight form of Megatron but Galvatron is also one of my favorites so Idk...those Knights need better names..let's see what else..KSI already had their story so meh..and last but not least Sir Edmund Burton's death..I'm also 50/50 on this because I love the character but it's still the most a great sad moment...and we need those too.
     
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    Cutting out the medieval stuff would have gone a long way.
     
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    I think you could get away with leaving the medieval times opening and doing what Cyberstorm said and just have it be a straightforward situation of the Knights hid it on Earth. And maybe have it be like knight armour was based off of ancient TF armour while your at it, so that's why they look like actual knights.

    Does the movie really need to redo the subplot of humans fighting Transformers in the first place? Did TRF really amount to anything in the film? At least Cemetary Wind served a purpose in AOE. You could cut TRF completely out and very little at all would change.

    I'm kinda tired of "I had family in Chicago who died ooooo bad robots all bad robots" as a backstory. Plus, that'd literally make him the same as Warrantface.
     
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  5. zachprime86

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    Cool. But another one of these threads? Is it Friday yet ?
     
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    Honestly, the whole movie needs to be redone from the ground up. This series has always had a bit of problem with repetition and conflicting backstories, yet TLK somehow managed to make all previous installments feel original and consistent, just by comparison. There's the usual rubbish about a relic from a part of human history that TF were secretly apart of, which the human lead and his love interest need to obtain, before Megatron and his latest master can use it to destroy Earth and save Cybertron. This time, however, they're doing Cybertron coming to Earth, again and humans hunting TF, again, again. Except humans hunting TF doesn't fit with how the last movie ended. There's no explanation for how Megatron knows his latest master or how she fits with the Creators from the last film. The secret history is done to such an extreme degree, it completely conflicts with everything we know about TF history on Earth. The relic's backstory doesn't work with the backstory of the Knights in the last film. There's damn near nothing original or logical about this movie's story. Even beyond the actual story, the interactions between the Autobots feel like ripoffs of the last movie's with Drift going on about peacefulness before attacking something, Bee fighting someone who questioned his leadership and a scene with Hound and Drift where Hound wants to kill someone with a grenade. Hell, the whole base idea of the film's purpose, bringing Bay back, one last time, to tie off the other movies and set up new ones, was what AOE was supposed to be. It's hard to believe just how pointless TLK is.
     
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  7. Awesomepow

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    Totally true.
     
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    Couldn't agree more. The storyline was terrible, not to mention we have no idea how Megatron & Barricade resurfaced. We didn't need the baby Dinobots. The government making a deal with Megatron to set free a handful Decepticons (what is this, Marvel Civil war all over again?? [Those of you that have read the comic, know what I'm talking about] Also, what kind of narcotics do you have to smoke to come up with the idea that Earth should be Unicron??????

    Oh wait, I forgot to mention.... How was Starscream's head end up fully intact after this happened????

     
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    You should look up some info about ptsd
     
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    I actually LOVED the Viviane flashbacks. In fact I thought they were so artistically well done that the movie didn’t even deserve them.
     
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    Wait, you removed Izabella? I so like her!
    I think that previous Movies have nothing contradicting each other, I have been thought it always, but in the rest I agree with you. The movie should be redone completely.
     
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    Pretty much my whole opinion of TLK right here.
     
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    I don’t think @SPLIT LIP meant it that way. I think the point was Savoy and Izzy both have the same story and to add a third character say the same line would be repetitive.
     
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    I think TLK simply needed a bit more “coolness” I enjoy the story, I enjoy the pacing even believe it or not, and I enjoy the beginning of robot characterization.

    As someone else pointed out here all the battle scenes except the ending, seem to be edited or cut way short and are anti climactic.

    Here’s a few quick changes for me that would’ve made the film a bit more fun.

    Cut the drone attack on Cade, have the decepticons finish the battle, they can lose but let’s not drag on the drone stuff in place of robots. Onslaught and dreadbot still die but they have maybe one more line (yes dreadbot has a line, he says: “mrgrgphhh” in the bank) and they fight just a few shots more. If you cut the drones before you shoot it on film you can get maybe even a few more seconds of those cons. Mohawk follows Cade into the building instead of the drone and Cogman kills him.

    Cogman. Ok I get why they cut his headmaster stuff it’s alot of animation. How about this: the Mclaren, the Aston Martin, the sub, and the old plane, are all controlled by cogman. Like a cog gear he transfoms and merged with these “suits” then the sub doesn’t have to transform, the plane, the other cars, but it still feels cool and not a cheap way of saying “the sub is a transformer! That does nothing”

    The topspin scene was a chance to bring back an old human and an old bot for a neat cameo. I like that topspin is back but the new head is lazy. I agree with @SPLIT LIP ’s theory that they needed a head that already had the animation to speak. Instead of swapping heads, I think the cuba Simmons scenes are humorous and I feel there are two other bots who already have speech animation, disappeared without explanation, and already have a huge history with Simmons, the twins. Give them an ending, love them or hate them the twins would’ve fit better with Simmons, and he could’ve complained about not being able to get rid of them, and they would beg him to play volleyball. Plus the Cuba scene was a one and done cameo. It was just for the purpose of a wink imo. We aren’t gonna see topspin again. Might as well use the twins they are goofballs and are acceptable to have retired. Topspin, an”asshole” and “fighter” wouldn’t sit and play volleyball while there is a battle going on... the twins? Yeah perfect!

    A post credit stinger with megatron and nitro Zeus licking their wounds with quintessa. Nitro’s Death was pretty lame, he made it that far, it was clear he was gonna be a hit with the fans, let him go dammit. The way he went out was very unsettling.

    Hey I love the last knight, it just needed a couple of kicks in the ass to get a bit more motivated!
     
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    Really?Hmm.
     

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