How powerful is the Fallen?

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  1. Infil

    Infil Well-Known Member

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    I'm wondering how they can show the Fallen's superiority? We know he's a being of great power, since Megatron is shown kneeling subservient to him on a comic cover, and if they follow IDW's storyline, he's one of the first 13 Cybertronians, after Unicron and Primus. The Decepticon symbol might also be based on his head design. He's somewhat akin to the Allspark, in that they're both tied deeply into ancient Cybertronian mythology.

    I imagine they might give him some elements to distinguish him from the other Transformers, and show that he's on a whole different level. I didn't read IDW's original storyline about the Fallen, but I know they had him permanently on fire, and that was one way to show that this guy's a bit supernatural.

    I think it's safe to reckon he's big in size, maybe not on par with Devastor, but at least bigger than Megatron. And he should certainly pack alot of firepower. Perhaps he can fly in robot mode as well.

    Just to throw out a radical idea, maybe he can mass shift. Like the cube did. Not on too ridiculous a scale, because it wouldn't look good on screen, but perhaps he can grow a little bigger at the climax of the film, just when you thought things couldn't get any worse.

    Anyone have any other ideas on how he can display his power? What could he do in his original storyline in the comics?
     
  2. Fit For natalie

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    In Dreamwave's The War Within: the Dark Ages, Grimlock busted his hand trying to punch him, and was then fried by the Fallen's magic flames. He's largely immune to standard Transformers weaponry. When he fought his way into the Autobase, he could "force crush" Jazz, Mirage and Sunstreaker's weapons at a distance.


    For all we know, the Movie version of the Fallen could have no overt ties to the comics Fallen. But considering the fact Simon Furman is currently writing a new comic book with Hasbro on the Original 13 Transformers, to be released this year...
     
  3. Liselotte

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    over 9000000!!!!!!
     
  4. thundrwaveprime

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    he was the gardian of evolution and progress wich gives him a huge amout of power to begin with, plus unicrons uby-duby magic, and you got an unstopable force of destruction.
     
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    :jawdropper:  WHAT 9000?!?
     
  6. process

    process Hanlon's razor Veteran TFW2005 Supporter

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    Wheeljack_Prime Don't eat me

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    not evolution, entropy. That's why he's always on fire.
     
  8. Djlarose

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    Any speculation as to an alt mode for him? Or will they even bother?
     
  9. Ash from Carolina

    Ash from Carolina Junior Smeghead

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    Since it's a Hollywood movie I guess the proper question would be how powerful will The Fallen be at the start of the movie and how powerful will be he be by the end of the movie. You know Hollywood does have that problem lately of movies starting with powerful bad guys who are way too easy to beat by the end of the movie.
     
  10. Spiderus Prime

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    He's More Powerful than and Megatron and Optimus Prime.
     
  11. Djlarose

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    Thats probably true. By the end Sam will take down the Fallen by himself using a message of hope that inspires him to be invincible
     
  12. Alienbot

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    The Fallen is so powerful, the pyramids weren't built to contain him: they were to make sure no one else shares the same space.
    When Decepticons go into standby, they check their servers for the Fallen.
    When the Fallen walks, he isn't lifting his legs up: he's pushing the rest of the planet down.
    The Fallen is not burnt by fire: he burns it.
    The Fallen's spark was too powerful for the AllSpark.
     
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    You've got that back to front there. The Fallen was the guardian of entropy, the aging and dissolution of order.

    The Fallen - Transformers Wiki
     
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    this ^
    and the Fallen's so powerful that his balls are inert.
     
  15. Wolfbrother

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    You mean like Blackout was in Movie 1? Ultra powerful in Qatar and then ultra wimpy in Mission City...
     
  16. deliciouspeter

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    The real question is how does he wrestle...because that's all they do in the movie. Millions of miles across space, just to transform and punch each other.
     
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    yeah his alt mode is "killing you mode"

    The Fallen will be a beast beyond comprehension
     
  18. Djlarose

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    That one is at least somewhat explained.. in the first scene they didnt know that they needed a certain type of ammo, so the weapons did nothing. In Mission City, they knew what needed to be done.
     
  19. Ash from Carolina

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    Not just a Transformers thing. Look at how big and bad the villains were in Pirates 2 only to get taken out as rather "eh" in Pirates 3. Sandman and Venom seem all bad ass at the start of Spiderman 3 then it's like lets power them down so Spidey can beat them both at once. Or Darth Maul is presented as all bad ass not to even make it the whole movie.

    It's like production teams get great ideas of how to bring in a villain but can't figure out how to end a movie without the heroes victory seeming more like an afterthought than a hard fought win.
     
  20. Angelwave

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    This just had me imaging an H. P. Lovecraft-type of mode
     

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