How many of you Consider the Comics/Novel canon?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by eagc7, Jul 28, 2011.

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Canon or not canon

  1. They always have been canon to me

    25.5%
  2. after reading those comics im pretty sure they are canon to the movies now

    10.6%
  3. no way they are not canon!

    63.8%
  1. eagc7

    eagc7 TF Movies Fan/Supporter

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    i think i may already have made this in 2009 or 2010, i dont remember but maybe, but still i was reading the Movieverse comics, and John barber have been doing a good job fixing every contradiction on the comics/Novels and movies, so i was thinking do ppl stil lconsdier them non.canon or they are now canon to teh movies in their opinions

    some of the contradictions includdes

    1. The fallen beign trapped in a relic on the comics while he is not trapped on it in the film

    2. also Tom Banachek tells John Keller that Sector Seven was "convened 80 years ago under President Hoover". This would place the founding date of Sector Seven, while movie prequel issue 2 shows that S7 had already been established and operating for quite some time before Archibald Witwicky found Megatron in 1897, also he mentions the gruop foudn the cube in the 1910s but movei prequel issue 2 shwos them finding it in 1902, he also claims that Megatron was moved to the Hoover Dam in 1934 while the novel prequel states 1969

    3. The ark crashed on the moon in 1961, but the autobots are using the ark in the prequel novel that takes place in 1969 (when the ark was found in the moon)

    4. the Decepticons have Space bridge in reign but in dotm it is said that Space bridge was a lost technolgoy re-created by Sentinel prime

    5. the Battle of the primes i ntales of the fallen issue 4 dosent match what we saw in ROTF

    but John barber Fixed all those Mistakes, some stuff are hard to explain by me, so i will use some stuff from TFwiki and i will explain some myself

    Fallen in relic: in the fourht chapter of tf Convergence (which comes with each issue of DOTM Adaptation) shows that Soundwave after a trip that took years (due to the ship he was using) he recovered some of Sentinel prime pilalrs and showed them to the fallen as Soudnwave was returning to earth, fallen told him to leave the pillars with him, and then he used to them for travel thru Space and time and Got himself freed from the sarchopagus

    Battle of the Primes: i asked john barber about this he told me that while they are incositent, they are not irreconcilable which means theres a way for make them work together still he havent made any story for fix this, but theres a way for make both versiosn work together

    Ark: Foundation reveals that the Autobots actually MADE 2 ARKS! which explains why there were 2 arks around in 1969

    Space Bridge:
    S7 Founding date: Sector 7 Issue 1 Notes confirms that S7 was NOT established in 1880s, actually the so caleld s7 headquaters is actually the trophy rooms of two scientist-adventures (Walter Simmons and Theodore Joseph Wells) and that Tom Banachek was lying on the date

    Allspark finding date:
    Megatron:
    so by fixing those mistake i can not consider thsoe canons to the adaptations of the films, because barricade dies in movie prequel while he is alive in reign and the future comics, also Fallen was freed from hsi relci in the 1990s, but he is still trapped on it on hte rotf adaptation, so Do you consider the comics canon to the movies or despite fixing those msitake you still belivie they take place in an alternate continuty
     
  2. Overlord Balder

    Overlord Balder Voices Slugslinger!

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    None of it. Not even one single bit.

    I might consider the DOTM-Game as canon, though.
     
  3. Minh'T

    Minh'T Descendant of Primus

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    Nope i don't think so
     
  4. Nope

    Nope Conehead

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    No, not after what happened to my poor little Jolt.
     
  5. Bountyan

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    I sure as hell don't. Some of the prequel stuff could work but other than that there are too many damn contradictions.
     
  6. SideSwipe154

    SideSwipe154 Not a Decepticon

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    can someone fill me in on what a canon is??? :|
     
  7. Nope

    Nope Conehead

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  8. eagc7

    eagc7 TF Movies Fan/Supporter

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    you traitor!, lol jk
     
  9. Backscatter

    Backscatter Autobot Brainmaster TFW2005 Supporter

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    This. The comics are still fun to read though.
     
  10. Ephland

    Ephland Let's Go Rangers

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    The only thing that's canon to the movies is the movies.
     
  11. Megabattimus

    Megabattimus Reborn Comics Fan

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    No, not cannon because the film makers ignore them. They are like the EU of Star Wars, as in George Lucas considers most of the books and other things to not be cannon. If you want to believe they are cannon, sure but that is personal cannon.
     
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    Just the prequels.
     
  13. Soundbytes

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    I will never believe Chewbaca was crushed by a moon!
     
  14. thebruteslayer

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    That's no moon...
     
  15. Soundbytes

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    Win
     
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    I consider them canon, simply because they are far better written than the movies could hope to be.

    If anything, I consider the MOVIES to be non-canon. :p 
     
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    Murasame CHIMICHANGAS

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    They are extended universe, but not canon. Canon is only what you see on the screen.
     
  18. Magnus' Mate

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    As with most people, the OP does not understand the meaning of the word "canon" (it's a pet hate of mine).

    In a franchise like TF, canon simply means that body of work that subsequent creators must acknowledge when creating their work. The comics and novels - REGARDLESS OF QUALITY/FAN LOVE - do not have to be factored in to any subsequent movie offering, therefore they are not canon.

    When he made ROTF or DOTM, Bay was not beholden to anything the in-between comics had established. And quite rightly so.

    This comes up in Star Trek fandom a lot, as there are a lot of great books and comics... but they ain't canon.

    I think what you really meant was who considers these as part of "their" Movie Continuity?
     
  19. RedWolf

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    You do know JFK made his speech in 1962 right?
     
  20. Yggdrasil

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    This. As far as I'm conrenced the movies are non-canon in the movieverse (wow that's like dividing by zero)

    The comics and the novel are far better than the movies can ever hope of being
     

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