How many of each figure do you think are produced?

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by unpunk, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. unpunk

    unpunk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Posts:
    202
    Trophy Points:
    107
    Likes:
    +6
    I was just thinking about this, and thought I'd ask. How many figures do you think are cranked out of a mold before it's unusable? When you think of how many times the original G1 molds have been used (Diaclone, G1, European classics, reissues, etc, etc.) especially the seeker mold (considering they have to use the main body mold for 6 different figures). Add the worldwide distribution of these toys into the mix, and that's quite a few figures. I'm not limiting this question strictly to G1 reissues BTW, but for any Transformer line. Is 40,000 of each figure high? Low? i just thought it was sort of an interesting thing to ask. Has this come up before? ok-boB
     
  2. ScoobyGoo

    ScoobyGoo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Posts:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Likes:
    +0
    Many many lots...

    I have absolutely no idea.
     
  3. Murasame

    Murasame CHIMICHANGAS

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Posts:
    15,459
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Location:
    The Lost Light
    Likes:
    +281
    I'm wondering how it is possible that newer toys seem to be so floppy and having loose joints, while my old toys are still like brand new (only some stickers indicate that they are actually not new). Did they renew the molds more often in the past or is it just poor QC? Because I would guess the old toys were produce in larger numbers than todays toys, because they were around many years longer and there were not so many different toys in the stores, like today. So it is a bit confusing...
     
  4. exomega255

    exomega255 Emerald Green

    Joined:
    May 20, 2010
    Posts:
    9,695
    News Credits:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    191
    Likes:
    +22
    it really depends on the quality of the mold and the popularity of it. Also, a slight retooling can go a long way.
     
  5. Skywave

    Skywave Transformers Noob

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2007
    Posts:
    1,375
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Likes:
    +0
    What I'm wondering is do they really have only one mold for a figure? Unless injecting plastic and extracting the sprue is a matter of seconds, I think that more than one is necessary to supply the world with such amount of toys.
     
  6. Houndvoice

    Houndvoice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2009
    Posts:
    1,810
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    I guess the more complex a figure is for its pricepoint, the more they'll have to make. I.e. they need to make more deluxes and scouts than say leaders to make the profit they want.
    My uneducated guess is they make 100.000+ of a deluxe.

    I'd say they have multiple molds at multiple hired factories.
     
  7. Brainchild

    Brainchild Dark Flame Master

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Posts:
    5,554
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Likes:
    +1
    I guess they changed it, but they did manage to "lose" the G1 Mirage mold. So either Hasbro went slightly numb and threw them all away, or they only produced one. Don't know about today, though.
     
  8. Dran0n

    Dran0n Junk male

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2007
    Posts:
    13,284
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    217
    Location:
    Cygnus X-1 (ya bish)
    Likes:
    +6
    Wow, good question.

    My answer: A lot.
     
  9. Wollstone

    Wollstone Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2010
    Posts:
    4,238
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Likes:
    +0
    1, just 1.
     
  10. ScoobyGoo

    ScoobyGoo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Posts:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Likes:
    +0
    It's most probably the master mould that degrades
     
  11. Tigermegatron

    Tigermegatron Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Posts:
    2,027
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Likes:
    +3
    it depends on the TF toy line & how popular Hasbro/Takara thinks it will sell. not all TF toy lines are the same.

    I'd imagine the TF Live action toy lines receive the highest volume units of toys produced world wide.
     
  12. Optimus Vader

    Optimus Vader Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Posts:
    3,983
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Likes:
    +0
    I'm going to go with 3,017. I base that on exactly what everyone else in this thread is basing their answers on.
     
  13. unpunk

    unpunk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Posts:
    202
    Trophy Points:
    107
    Likes:
    +6
    I would surmise that movie toys are surely getting more figures made than any line in the past. Movie 2 figures were more available than movie 1 due to Hasbro underestimating the popularity of the first film. Christmas of 07 I couldn't find a single TF on the shelves. Even the little non-screen toys were gone (watch, binoculars etc. I can't recall exactly what they were called). Christmas time in 84-85 was the same thing, certain figures were highly in demand and my folks couldn't find too many of them. I think it has to be a case of several molds made and distributed to different factories. It would be hell for one factory to do every single figure in the quantities that are needed to supply the world. Can you imagine how repetitive it would be to cut figures out of the sprue, and assemble the same figure for hours at a time? Yeah popularity of the character probably has a lot to do with it too. I just thought it was an interesting question to ask...
     
  14. Sol Fury

    Sol Fury The British Butcher Administrator News Staff

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2002
    Posts:
    35,576
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    317
    Likes:
    +34
    Facebook:
    Instagram:
    Yes, that sounds about right.

    Also don't forget these lost molds are from the 80s, so they're 20-25 years old. In the meantime someone might have binned them because they were not being used, they might have deteriorated from age, they might have been left behind when contracts expired... plenty of scope for a set of molds to go missing / become unusable.

    Though more modern losses like the Car Brothers are almost certainly due to the master becoming unusable. I'd imagine that the materials the things are made from would be made to suit the projected amount of uses of the mold, no sense in making one that will last a million uses when you're only expecting a maximum run of 100,000 - 200,000.
     
  15. Omnius

    Omnius Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2006
    Posts:
    11,890
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    256
    Likes:
    +8
    This is why I thought the Car Brothers moulds gave up the ghost so quickly - as CR was only intended to be a filler line, Takara made the moulds from 'cheaper' materials as they only expected a couple of production runs.

    Also of note is the Classics seeker mould - Acid Storm, Universe Starscream and Henkei Thundercracker all showed progressive signs of mould degradation, but Henkei Ghost Starscream's joints and missile launchers suggest a 'new' mould has been made due to the huge increase in quality.
     
  16. John_Force

    John_Force 16xNHRA Funny Car Champ TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2009
    Posts:
    2,376
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    196
    Likes:
    +1
    What I'm wondering is how do they copy the master mold?
    But, as others have said, Master mold degradation is something not even Hasbro can predict.
     
  17. robowarrior

    robowarrior Arcee's BF

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2010
    Posts:
    2,918
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Likes:
    +4
    I have to say they probably make about 100 thousand zillion trillion and 40 cazillions... ;p
     
  18. Scantron

    Scantron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2004
    Posts:
    8,249
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Likes:
    +3
    Over 9000.
     
  19. Tigertrack

    Tigertrack Back In The Game!

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Posts:
    7,054
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Likes:
    +2
    Simple answer:

    More than we know.
     
  20. Omnius

    Omnius Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2006
    Posts:
    11,890
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    256
    Likes:
    +8
    Until we find out.
     

Share This Page