I am going to write this based of the movie being only a popcorn movie. I will not hold it to the bare minimum of plot, characterization, story, dialogue, etc. We can toss that out the window. Lets just focus on this movie as just a random amalgam of scenes unconnected to the previous scenes. So, as a popcorn movie, are people REALLY happy with Skids and Mudflap? Honestly - are you guys truly happy with them? Was it necessary for them to be stereotyped to the extreme - goatees, gold tooth, bug eyes, etc? Did that add something good to their characterization? Was their stereotyped ghetto-slang really necessary? Honestly - did you guys like the direction they went with them? Do you think that robots that looked somewhat normal could have achieved what they achieved without acting or talking like clowns? Are you satisfied with the toilet humor? Is that the best kind of humor for this movie? That the TF movie has toilet humor because thats the kind of humor that TF fans like? That TF fans must like the same humor thats in Beavis and Butthead? Farting robots? Dogs humping? Close up butt shots of an old man? A robot humping a girl's leg? Robo-testicles? What about the juvenille humor? Mouse trap sight gags? Mom getting stoned off a brownie? What about the inconsistencies in the robots? Grindor as a replacement for Blackout. Was that really necessary? Its the same exact shape as Blackout - why not just USE the name Blackout? Why not just have Sidewasy have been Barricade? As a toy commercial - this was a good idea. As a movie - this was a horrible idea that made the movie what it really is - a toy commercial. Was having multiple Constructicons really necessary when Devastator was already formed? How lazy is that to not just animate random protoforms instead of re-using Constructicons? Was the Matrix even necessary? Was the sun killing weapon really even necessary? Heck, was the fallen even necessary? Think about it - the first movie had Megatron - and that was enough. Do we really need stupid MacGuffins? Is a giant race of transforming robots not enough? Do we really need to add all this other stuff? Just keep it simple. Did Bumblebee really have to be mute again? I mean - c'mon. Is he going to be mute for the rest of his life? Will he be mute for TF3? Whats so wrong if he speaks? People on these boards really need to contemplate if they were happy with the movie as it currently is. Because you will get the exact same thing for TF3. Do you honestly want more toilet humor like this? This is even before looking at stuff like plot. I don't think the TF franchise can yet attempt to find a plot before fixing the stuff like the toilet humor.