First off, I know that people have probably already made threads about this or what not, and I don't know that because unfortunatly I don't have time to read them all ^.^ Anyways, I baught classics ironhide today and I was just mesmerized at the amount of detail and/or enginerring that went into making this toy, well to me it was advanced anyways even if I did transform it in a couple of minutes, and then I started thinking. transformers have come a long way since the 80s, toy wise that is. I wasn't alive yet but I own and have seen all of the old toys and they were far from complex, but also very fun. Then things started to progress with the japanese series' toys and the G2 repaints and what not. Beast Wars opened up a whole new thing with the ball joints and the detail that went into them, and lets not forget that the past 4 japanese series have all but mastered the art of turning 80 toys into one giant robot. Also to note that the movie toys were extremly complex in how they changed and how they make several parts move simotaniously. Then I thought back to the classics line and realized that even though their market is always children when it comes to toys, it's almost like they are made for older children or younger adults with how complex they are. It made me realized just how far the toy line has come in 25 years and how much further it can go. Any thoughts?