How can they explain if they cut Sideswipe,Ratchet,Dino and The Wreckers from Tf 4?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by tm11176, Aug 31, 2012.

  1. tm11176

    tm11176 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2012
    Posts:
    123
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Likes:
    +1
    How can they explain if a fan will question them?What they”ll do?
     
  2. FatalT 71

    FatalT 71 Mr. JazzHunter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2010
    Posts:
    6,814
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    192
    Likes:
    +22
    They don't have to explain.

    They can just do it. It's not like they explained where the Idiots Two went.
     
  3. Starscream Gaga

    Starscream Gaga Protoformed This Way

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Posts:
    9,615
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +5,850
    Wait, when was it ever said they weren't gonna be in it?
    Are you just obsessed with making pointless threads?

    Besides, I doubt Michael Bay would ever care enough to actually properly explain something like that. Just look how he cut the twins and their deaths and just pretended they never existed, along with the Arcee bikes.
     
  4. Chris James

    Chris James Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Posts:
    3,504
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Location:
    San Diego
    Likes:
    +1,965
    Keep Ratchet and Sideswipe but ditch the other 2. Dino was sideswipe 0.5 and the wreckers served their purpose in DOTM but they should leave some room for some new characters. Ratchet and Sideswipe should be co-second in commands.
     
  5. PrimesRule

    PrimesRule Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2012
    Posts:
    1,609
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +4
    The Arcee triplets were all killed in ROTF onscreen, hence their disappearance in DOTM. The bumbling Twins were cut out because they were obviously the most hated in ROTF.
     
  6. PrimesRule

    PrimesRule Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2012
    Posts:
    1,609
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +4
    Ratchet and Sideswipe are staying unless one or both gets killed off in the fourth film. I expect Sideswipe to die next anyway because for some Bay reason, the SICs always die.
     
  7. roccondil5

    roccondil5 sculptor

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2011
    Posts:
    540
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    I bet the next thread on the movie forum will be something along the lines of "what if aliens really invaded earth and prevented the production of TF4?"
     
  8. Autobus Prime

    Autobus Prime Transit Former

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2005
    Posts:
    8,742
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +1,435
    OP:

    Actually, the first three-quarters of TF4 focus entirely on Ratchet, as he struggles to come to terms with the death of Ironhide. It's going to be told almost entirely visually, with very few words, except for a quiet, recurring musical motif. There's a very powerful scene where the medic finds an a bit of rusty metal on an overgrown battlefield, picks it up, and just stands there, turning it over in his hands and looking at it, for a solid ten minutes. The scene breaks with a single word. "Helicopter," he says, and then puts the piece down, gently, and there's a fade-out on that bit of scrap metal, gleaming in the sunset.

    (This is right before the scene of the children playing ball in the bombed-out alley, remember?)

    I have to admit that a lot of the scenes have a certain eerie unreality to them. It's a very impressionistic film in some ways, and maybe the French singer may not appeal to everyone, but I must say, Transformers 4 is magnificent, a great example of the work coming out of Monsieur Bay's studio in Southern France.
     
  9. PrimesRule

    PrimesRule Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2012
    Posts:
    1,609
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +4
    Might be a blessing.... Bay can die in a random explosion, therefore bringing the need for an actual BADASS director to do TF4.
     
  10. Starscream Gaga

    Starscream Gaga Protoformed This Way

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Posts:
    9,615
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +5,850
    He is experienced. That's not his problem.
    His problem is that he sucks.
     
  11. TNG Prime

    TNG Prime TNG Prime IS a title!

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2012
    Posts:
    372
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +2
    No, he doesn't. Explanation was provided for all previous characters in comics and the like. The Twins were stated somewhere to have been killed by Devastator, not sure where.

    And yeah, they'd do what they always do. Killed in comics that took place between movies.
     
  12. jru42287

    jru42287 Ass Möde is a way of life.

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Posts:
    17,309
    News Credits:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +21,198
    The same way they explained Jolt, the Arcee triplets, and the Twins missing from Dark of the Moo...oh, yeah...
     
  13. PrimesRule

    PrimesRule Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2012
    Posts:
    1,609
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +4
    The Twins would actually have been killed by Sentinel Prime along with Ironhide if they had made it into the final cut of the film.
     
  14. PrimesRule

    PrimesRule Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2012
    Posts:
    1,609
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +4
    Jolt was murdered by Shockwave. The Arcee triplets were killed by random Protoforms and a Bonecrusher drone.
     
  15. FatalT 71

    FatalT 71 Mr. JazzHunter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2010
    Posts:
    6,814
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    192
    Likes:
    +22
    Not everyone reads the comics.

    To the average movie going fan, those characters disappeared sans explanation.
     
  16. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout ...and I'll whisper "No."

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Posts:
    45,216
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    467
    Location:
    [REDACTED]
    Likes:
    +40,600
    Simple. They all went to the same place Barricade stayed at during ROTF.

    Also, OP, please stop raping the "new thread" button simply to ask pointless questions that are easily answered if you just think hard enough about them.
     
  17. Ash from Carolina

    Ash from Carolina Junior Smeghead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Posts:
    15,966
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +3,233
    A comic book might try to explain it, but for all the bluster some people have about continuity the movies just don't seem to care about continuity. Just go back to the first film where Sam spots Barricade only for Barricade to completely disappear from the film with no explanation.

    Plus no one knows what in the world "re-imagined" means. After The Amazing Spider Man took in $705 million worldwide even with competition from Batman by the time filming starts "re-imagined" could mean "reboot" in everything but name.
     
  18. jru42287

    jru42287 Ass Möde is a way of life.

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Posts:
    17,309
    News Credits:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +21,198
    Show me where that happens in the movie? :confused: 
     
  19. PrimesRule

    PrimesRule Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2012
    Posts:
    1,609
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +4
    Jolt's death is canon. The death of the Arcee Triplets is shown onscreen in ROTF, just gotta pay close attention.
     
  20. Tux Chaos X

    Tux Chaos X Spades Slick

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2007
    Posts:
    474
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Likes:
    +2
    I wonder if there was so much concern when most of the G1 season 2 cast didn't bother to show up for the '86 movie.