How big is Cybertron supposed to be?

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  1. ErbFan28

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    How big is Cybertron supposed to be in comparison to Earth?
     
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    I think I remember hearing that Cybertron was about the size of Earth's moon...
     
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    It was said to be much larger than the Moon in the old Marvel comic, roughly the size of Saturn.
     
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    That's pretty damn big.
     
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    No way in hell it's merely the size of the Moon. I'd go with Saturn-sized or larger.
     
  6. Aernaroth

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    It really varies depending on the series.
     
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    I agree. I do think the thought of a Saturn sized planet is more plausible though. A race of 15 to 30 foot TFs crammed on a planet the size of the moon isn't a pleasant thought.
     
  8. Chris McFeely

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    Saturn-sized in the Marvel comic, much smaller than the Earth in the G1 cartoon. The smaller size is probably the more feasible one, as the level of gravity on a solid metal world the size of Saturn would be positively crushing, and humans have wandered around on it without that problem. The moon is not small, nor is the Transformer race that large.
     
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    I always thought it was the size of our moon.

    Personally I don't remember any old G1 Marvel references, but that G1 episode when Megs transports Cybertron into Earths orbit sticks out.
     
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    Ima go with 'moon-sized'. No way is it bigger than the Earth.
     
  11. Murasame

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    My bet is on Moon sized.
     
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    Saturn, Jupiter, Neptune and Uranus are gas giants. Saturn is 95 times the size of earth but only 1/8th the density and about 9 times the mass. Bottom line, planets that size cannot support life as we know it, be it carbon based or metalic/robotic.

    Our moon, on the other hand, is quiet unlike all other moons in our galaxy. It is huge when compared to other planetary satellites, 1/4 the size of Earth and 1/81st it's mass. It is a major contributor to our gravity, tides, weather and other things that make Earth livable.

    Given the relatively low population of the transformer race and the fact that almost everything they make and do uses metals, I'd say Cybertron is closer to Moon-sized than Saturn-sized. Personally I always thought of it as about midway between the Moon and the Earth.
     
  13. Sol Fury

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    Midway between the Earth and the Moon makes sense based on the couple of times the planet is seen in Earth orbit. Saturn sized makes sense given the larger size of the population, but only from the viewpoint of us as humanity assuming Cybertron had a population of billions. I'm sure war, plus the existance of a majority of Transformers of a smaller scale, actually works in the moon-sized models favour. After all, a planet with the size of the moon would work, even with giant inhabitants, if there were only thousands to a couple of million of them.
     
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    As someone said earlier, it depends on what series. As far as the original cartoon, it was much smaller than the Earth:
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    Would explain why they're at war though! LOL
     
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    Way bigger than earth, that's or sure.
     
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    I don't think people truely understand just how big Saturn is. Look at this:

    [​IMG]

    You could fit 764 Earths inside Saturn! I'm sorry but it just doesn't make sense that Cybertron would be that big, not even for a race of 30+ foot robots. The gravity alone would crush a transformer. Or, if they somehow managed to evolve on a planet like that, there'd be no way they could function effectively on Earth.

    Midway between Earth/moon makes it more than half the size of earth, that's plenty big enough.
     

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    What ever the plot demands...

    I've always preferred to think of it as Earth sized since the gravity appears to be identical. Those pictures in the cartoon aren't proof that it's smaller just that it's distant.

    Plus I never liked Cybertron being put into Earth orbit. In actually such an event would probably cause our moon to either fly off into space or crash into the planets. The two planets themselves would meet with a similar fate (fly off into space most likely being eaten by the sun eventually, or crash into one another forming a new planet similar to when proto-Earth was struck). But then I'm a geek who has a basic understanding of physics watching a kid show designed solely to sell toys.
     
  19. Chris McFeely

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    Yeah, they are. That picture is of Cybertron in orbit of Earth. Scientific sense of that aside, to orbit it, it has to have less mass.
     
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    Moreover, I don't think people grasp how large the moon is. It has a diameter of just under 3,500 km.