Can you give me an example of where it has gone further, where proportionate representation of different groups has been achieved and people are still calling for more diversity? I think you can go a bit further than that - because what that number is certainly counts for something. We don't demand or expect that half of all fictional characters to be gay because nowhere near half of all humans are gay. But we *do* agitate for half of all fictional characters, or thereabouts, to be women, because women make up roughly half the population. And for much more representation of minority ethnic groups, because they make up about a fifth of the population in white Western countries. I agree with you that the focus on relationships in LL just isn't done well enough, or isn't arresting enough on its own, to justify itself. I'm in the camp that says the Cyclonus / Tailgate relationship reached its peak in MTMTE with the fake-out death and has been cloying ever since. Anode and Lug simply haven't earned their place - especially galling as Roberts is usually very adept at thinking ahead, and I'd have thought that if he felt it necessary to include a gay female couple then he could have started easing them in a long time ago, given them a better reason for turning up and got readers to care about them as individuals before bringing in the romance angle. That's what worked with Chromedome and Rewind. I've often said that I think Roberts needs a better editor. It's pretty normal for writers to be blind to their own flaws or to increasingly caricature their own styles - and the job of an editor would be to put a second pair of eyes on the job and keep the author from going down that path.